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Reply 120
Original post by kasiapapi
Got an interview at the Slade, haven't heard yet from University of the Arts (Wimbledon college), are they of similar entry standard? Sorry for sounding rather ignorant, but I have a lame excuse - I'm not from the Uk :P


I think it's much easier to get into Wimbledon, they offered me an interview without me even having to submit any work or a portfolio, but they do have a very high number of applicants from what i gather.
The Slade is very hard to get into, with very high standards. It's considered the hardest (alongside ruskin). Congratulations on getting an interview!
Original post by fictive
It's not that it's so very much easier to get into Wimbledon than the Slade - it's just a different application process. Getting into Wimbledon is still incredibly competitive, even though they interview a lot of candidates. Interview at Wimbledon by no means guarantees a space. Slade massively obliterate their applicant numbers before interview at their portfolio inspections, whereas Wimbledon actually take time out to both look at students work and discuss it with them, which I actually respect.


Oh yeah, I'm not saying its easy to get into Wimbledon. It's just that, based on figures, Slade get loads more applicants than anywhere else. I think it must be a lot of international applications.
Reply 122
Original post by fictive
It's not that it's so very much easier to get into Wimbledon than the Slade - it's just a different application process. Getting into Wimbledon is still incredibly competitive, even though they interview a lot of candidates. Interview at Wimbledon by no means guarantees a space. Slade massively obliterate their applicant numbers before interview at their portfolio inspections, whereas Wimbledon actually take time out to both look at students work and discuss it with them, which I actually respect.


Oh I didn't know that, I quite like the fact that they do that too! I feel weird not being able to explain the ideas behind my work, which is why I was pretty nervous about the Slade portfolio drop-off thing. According to my course leader, who studied at the RA, Wimbledon is one of the best places to go for painting. I think some of his friends who also did their MA at the RA are tutors there. From people I know who go there it's pretty relaxed and a little disorganised, which I like somewhat, opposed to the coldness of some of the London institutions. It certainly doesn't have a reputation for being snobby.
Original post by Zoeah
Oh I didn't know that, I quite like the fact that they do that too! I feel weird not being able to explain the ideas behind my work, which is why I was pretty nervous about the Slade portfolio drop-off thing. According to my course leader, who studied at the RA, Wimbledon is one of the best places to go for painting. I think some of his friends who also did their MA at the RA are tutors there. From people I know who go there it's pretty relaxed and a little disorganised, which I like somewhat, opposed to the coldness of some of the London institutions. It certainly doesn't have a reputation for being snobby.


My neighbour did painting there and I think it's definitely the best place if you want to specialise in that area. I'm starting to wish I'd applied there instead of Chelsea, but I do prefer Fine Art to Painting, even if the course is very open.
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Reply 124
Original post by HelveticaBold
My neighbor did painting there and I think it's definitely the best place if you want to specialise in that area. I'm starting to wish I'd applied there instead of Chelsea, but I do prefer Fine Art to Painting, even if the course is very open.


I wouldn't worry about it! On a bit of an tangent- was looking at your work the other day, and I think your video is fantastic. Do you do much video-based stuff? Also, TWIN PEAKS !!!
Reply 125
Original post by Zoeah
I wouldn't worry about it! On a bit of an tangent- was looking at your work the other day, and I think your video is fantastic. Do you do much video-based stuff? Also, TWIN PEAKS !!!


Can we start a David Lynch thread???
Original post by Zoeah
I wouldn't worry about it! On a bit of an tangent- was looking at your work the other day, and I think your video is fantastic. Do you do much video-based stuff? Also, TWIN PEAKS !!!


Thanks. Film/Animation used to be my main thing before I got back into painting over the last few years, but it was mostly hand drawn (digital) animation. I do have another film uploaded here: https://vimeo.com/86905263 but it's only the first half. I'm also working on a three channel installation/film at the moment.
Twin Peaks is awesome. :biggrin:
Reply 127
Original post by fictive
Absoloutely, sometimes it's really hard for an onlooker to look at a body of work and understand that there is some kind of logic running through it, if the artist hasn't been given the chance to articulate that. I suppose that said logic is a lot of what they were looking for in this application process - the development process, the ability to draw out ideas from one thing and channel it into another. From the sounds of the fact you've got an interview at the Slade, your work obviously had a self-evident quality and an observable rhythm running through :smile:.


I couldn't agree more. I think that looking at the 'portfolio only' also puts a lot of pressure on the candidate to be more literal in how they present their work, (worrying the viewer won't 'get' certain things etc) and to try and show things more obviously, which for some people doesn't suit their art.


Original post by fictive
Oh really? He doesn't happen to know anything about Camberwell Painting relative to Wimbledon does he? I'm currently having to choose between the two. Did you apply to any UALs other than Wimbledon?


I haven't heard him speak much about Camberwell, but I assume that's because he doesn't have as many connections to it. From what I've gathered, though, the painting courses on both are of very high standard. I've applied to CSM, Chelsea, and Wimbledon for painting (as well as Goldsmiths and the Slade)
Reply 128
Original post by fictive
I don't think he's had enough wives :P. Maybe when he gets to 5.


I would gladly be number 5
Reply 129
Original post by WesChains
I would gladly be number 5

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
Reply 130
Original post by fictive
I'm sure he would more than welcome a transvestite painter into his harem - provided you can don some oven gloves and cook for him.


i'll make him some damn fine coffee and cherry pie.
Reply 131
Original post by HelveticaBold
Thanks. Film/Animation used to be my main thing before I got back into painting over the last few years, but it was mostly hand drawn (digital) animation. I do have another film uploaded here: https://vimeo.com/86905263 but it's only the first half. I'm also working on a three channel installation/film at the moment.
Twin Peaks is awesome. :biggrin:


LOVE the film. I can really see where you are coming from with your work. There's something uneasy in a lot of it, which I find really effective and interesting. That's really cool, video and animation takes a lot of skill and talent to do well (which you clearly have).
I similarly have only really got back into concentrating on painting over the last few years, after many years of obsessive photography and working with photographic processes (which I'm now trying to incorporate it back into my work somehow).
Reply 132
Original post by fictive
I bet you would! Do you think he would remove the cherry from your pie before eating? Oh gosh, that was awful.


He could fill it with garmonbozia instead :P
Original post by fictive
I've just had cheeky snoops of both of your Flickrs from the Slade Stalking page.


HelveticaBold - the Parlor is a painting which is particularly capturing - I would be fascinated to know what your influences were on that since I've got rather into 16th/17th painting lately and it seems you could have some old school influences? Your work has a bit of a fantasy vibe going on which is quite rare nowadays -Tolkein fan by any chance?!

I think you're right to want the more general fine art course, though your painting technique is great, it would be a shame to see that knack for installation work/photography wasted... I absoloutely love the delicate work with the feathers!


Thank you. :smile: I do love Rembrandt and Caravaggio, as well as Hieronymus Bosch, but my influences for that painting were mostly Mark Ryden and Martin Wittfooth. But they both take a lot of influence from Flemish and Renaissance art. I'm actually not a fantasy fan (at least in film/literature), but I think there is probably some cross-over with surrealism there. I also like the kind of subtle surrealism in work such as that of Magritte, which I think has elements of fantasy.
Reply 134
Original post by fictive
I've just had cheeky snoops of both of your Flickrs from the Slade Stalking page.

Very Eva Hesse actually! And yes I can see that there are common motifs running through all your pieces, which must have been something that really impressed the Slade. It's almost as if there is a simulacrum of fabric/the loose skin in the life collages- was that intentional?


Thank you! Means a lot. I wouldn't say it was intentional as such... my drawing style is very much about mark-making, which does appear in a lot of my use of other media, and it seems to to be that my interest in looking at bodily processes, surfaces and layers has also translated into most of how i am currently working.

Do you have any work online I could look at? (no worries if not) You could private message me if you didn't want to link it on here publicly, of course.
Original post by Zoeah
LOVE the film. I can really see where you are coming from with your work. There's something uneasy in a lot of it, which I find really effective and interesting. That's really cool, video and animation takes a lot of skill and talent to do well (which you clearly have).
I similarly have only really got back into concentrating on painting over the last few years, after many years of obsessive photography and working with photographic processes (which I'm now trying to incorporate it back into my work somehow).


Thanks. :smile: That's exactly what I was going for. I'm really glad it came across.
I think it would be great to incorporate photography back into you're work. I love seeing a blend of different media in work.
Reply 136
Original post by HelveticaBold
The joint honours is a ridiculous work load. I remember at the open day the tutor said to consider it 80/80 instead of 50/50. It would be like doing two separate degrees. You're the first person I've seen not like Kingston. Anything specific that put you off?


Yeah I'm enjoying the Art History side more so, but yeah it is intense! Erm I didn't like the town much, the open day was very unorganised and to me, that put me off. I didn't like the studio space, and it takes two change-overs on the train for me to get there from my hometown, which is kind of a big deal because to kill 3 hours of a train journey I'd rather settle down and get some work done at the same time! Generally as soon as you step onto a campus, you'll know if you can see yourself living there or not. I missed several fine art talks because the "Fine art help" guy didn't have a clue what room they were in or anything so I learnt nothing about the course and the open day seemed pointless and a waste of money :confused:
Original post by abie_lark
Yeah I'm enjoying the Art History side more so, but yeah it is intense! Erm I didn't like the town much, the open day was very unorganised and to me, that put me off. I didn't like the studio space, and it takes two change-overs on the train for me to get there from my hometown, which is kind of a big deal because to kill 3 hours of a train journey I'd rather settle down and get some work done at the same time! Generally as soon as you step onto a campus, you'll know if you can see yourself living there or not. I missed several fine art talks because the "Fine art help" guy didn't have a clue what room they were in or anything so I learnt nothing about the course and the open day seemed pointless and a waste of money :confused:


I can see why you wouldn't like Kingston after that experience. It's the course that I really like at Kingston (and their film/animation facilities), but I know what you mean about knowing whether a university is for you or not. Some places just aren't for you. :smile:
Reply 138
Original post by WhoKnew107
The wait for goldsmiths is agonising for me as well! I have been refreshing my email non stop, even though it's a weekend haha.

Does anyone know when we should expect to hear?


Awh :frown: I read on the website (or an email, can't remember which) that I would hear back by late February, which basically means this week as Saturday is the 1st March. I'm not sure how fast they are to reject, but I think if we're not contacted for interview by the end of the week then they're not going to. Good luck!
Reply 139
Original post by Mathilda5
I've been offered places at Camberwell for Drawing, Wimbledon for Sculpture, and Falmouth for Fine Art. I revoked my applications from Nottingham Trent and Manchester Met because I know that the other three are the ones I really want to go to.

I regret so much when I applied taking the advice of a pessimistic tutor to apply to some that are "easier to get in to" (NT and MM) and wish I'd applied to Brighton and Chelsea, where I really wanted to go but thought they'd just reject me. Anyway I guess that's just life.

Now it's just choosing between the three.....Anyone else considering the same places?


I'm considering Drawing at Camberwell! I did a similar thing and applied to 3 prestigious unis and 2 back ups, which my tutor encouraged. My first interview was at Camberwell and they offered me a place 5 days after interview, so I rejected the two back ups immediately! That said, I only wanted to apply to unis in London and i'm not sure where else I would apply, as I didn't want to apply for the slade, and wimbledon is a bit too far out for my liking!
I applied to Chelsea and Goldsmiths too, and haven't had offers (or rejections) from those yet, but I think my first choice would be Goldsmiths and second would be Camberwell!
If I was you I would go for Wimbledon or Camberwell, they are both good Unis so I'd choose between the 2 courses? I'm just thinking of work opportunities in terms of contacts and meeting people to exhibit with, Falmouth is so small!

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