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Reply 140
Received an official offer today, changed to with degree committee on Friday and awaiting decision by BoGs on Monday and conditional offer was made yesterday. Surprisingly, took less than a week to send out the letter. Applied early December.
Reply 141
I received an offer from the Masters in Quantitative Finance programme at ETH Zurich. The cost of that programme + cost of living would be half that of cambridge, lse, or any other uk university. Its also a pretty good place for pursuing mathematical finance as they have one of the strongest maths/computer science department in Europe. What are your takes on it? Im still considering my offer.
Reply 142
Original post by Padapop
I received an offer from the Masters in Quantitative Finance programme at ETH Zurich. The cost of that programme + cost of living would be half that of cambridge, lse, or any other uk university. Its also a pretty good place for pursuing mathematical finance as they have one of the strongest maths/computer science department in Europe. What are your takes on it? Im still considering my offer.


I turned down an offer from that programme a month ago but some friends are going there next year. In terms of quality of teaching it is aproximately the same as Cambridge or any other top programme in Europe (I actually like the curriculum there more than that at Cambridge). In terms of costs it is not as extreme difference as you suggest. It is 3 semesters long and living costs in Zurich are extreme. If you take the suggested 2000CHF per month you are at about 34k CHF (roughly 23k GBP) which is completly the same as at Cambridge (without factoring in the opportunity costs of the additional 6 months). I am not saying you cannot survive on less but you can also spend less at Cambridge if you want to.

The largest difference is probably its reputation. The brand name exists virtually only in Switzerland whereas places like Oxbridge are respected around the world. I remember reading somewhere on Wilmott forum from some recruiter that it is unknown in London which alone puts it behind 10 best universities in UK regardless of its quality. You have to think about where you want to end up. For London or New York it is not the best choice but if you would be able to land a job in Zurich the costs would return within 3 months. Just be prepared that it is very hard to get a job without being proficient in German and many people have to return to their home countries.
Any news these days?

Does anyone knows whether Cam Self-Service account only changes during 9am-5pm?
Reply 144
No, but it changed to "Awaiting decision by the Board of Graduate Studies" (I applied late, on the 28th of Feb.).
Original post by casusa
Same stage as me then. Camsis has been down so very slow now, we may have to wait to next week to get our offers :redface:


PS! I applied in February too, but quite early.


Would you guys mind sharing your profiles? Cheers.
Original post by casusa
Maths with Econ, UCL 2013


Thx Casusa! Do you have any fellows who have also applied this program? How are their cases going?
Reply 147
Original post by ony92
I turned down an offer from that programme a month ago but some friends are going there next year. In terms of quality of teaching it is aproximately the same as Cambridge or any other top programme in Europe (I actually like the curriculum there more than that at Cambridge). In terms of costs it is not as extreme difference as you suggest. It is 3 semesters long and living costs in Zurich are extreme. If you take the suggested 2000CHF per month you are at about 34k CHF (roughly 23k GBP) which is completly the same as at Cambridge (without factoring in the opportunity costs of the additional 6 months). I am not saying you cannot survive on less but you can also spend less at Cambridge if you want to.

The largest difference is probably its reputation. The brand name exists virtually only in Switzerland whereas places like Oxbridge are respected around the world. I remember reading somewhere on Wilmott forum from some recruiter that it is unknown in London which alone puts it behind 10 best universities in UK regardless of its quality. You have to think about where you want to end up. For London or New York it is not the best choice but if you would be able to land a job in Zurich the costs would return within 3 months. Just be prepared that it is very hard to get a job without being proficient in German and many people have to return to their home countries.


I think I didnt mention that I was non EU, so cambridge's fees itself would be 19k for me. add in living cost of 7k = 26k. And it would be slightly unfair to compare month for month because the course in Zurich is 18 months as oppose to 10 months, and that involves a masters thesis that you can do with a company. So it really is around twice the fees + living cost if you compare it on a yearly basis.

I do agree with the reputation part, but also the curriculum part. I actually personally prefer the ETH Zurich curriculum. Hmm, thanks for replying anyway!
Original post by casusa
I have seen some from UCL on the forum, I think there may be some from Econ 2014 that has(have) received an offer. I graduated last year and I have friends and classmates studying at Cambridge this year, I don't know if any are on MPhil Finance, but some on MPhil Fin and Econ and Math/Stat(?).

What are your profile?


I'm studying Economics, also in a UK uni. I have received the offer of F&E and am waiting for the outcome of this one.
Original post by casusa
Congratulations on your MFE offer :smile:

I am waiting for the outcome of MFE, applied late Nov. I think my case with MFE is that I am studying Econometrics now since I didn't do it as a part of my UG, combining it with working in Finance.

Which course would you prefer: MFE or MF?


Haha. I don't really have a preference at this moment and people's idea usually keeps changing as time passes by. From my point, F&E seems to be on a more general ground while pure finance is more specialised...
Reply 150
Original post by dandelion_wander
Would you guys mind sharing your profiles? Cheers.


Theoretical physics and economics, Germany.
Original post by juvereya
Hey, how are you liking this course so far? How are the modules in terms of content and rigor? Are the finance modules too mathematical or economics based? Are you planning to do PhD or go into the industry after you graduate?


I really like the course on the whole & especially cambridge. The rigor of modules depends a lot on what you take... i took some math faculty courses which are extremely rigorous (as you could probably imagine). some of the judge modules are less so. you get a lot of flexibility in terms of what you study though so you can make it as difficult as you like, and you can choose modules to suit your strengths

Asset pricing and fundamentals of competitive markets (aka advanced micro) are highly economics and maths based. but it's not excessively difficult. There is a maths/stats pre course which gives you all the tools you need in terms of calculus, matrix algebra, etc etc

I am going into a PhD, but many people in the class entering industry next year. I think there is 4-5 people from a class of 22 who will do a PhD
Original post by finance101
I really like the course on the whole & especially cambridge. The rigor of modules depends a lot on what you take... i took some math faculty courses which are extremely rigorous (as you could probably imagine). some of the judge modules are less so. you get a lot of flexibility in terms of what you study though so you can make it as difficult as you like, and you can choose modules to suit your strengths

Asset pricing and fundamentals of competitive markets (aka advanced micro) are highly economics and maths based. but it's not excessively difficult. There is a maths/stats pre course which gives you all the tools you need in terms of calculus, matrix algebra, etc etc

I am going into a PhD, but many people in the class entering industry next year. I think there is 4-5 people from a class of 22 who will do a PhD


For the 17 who won't do a PhD, is it a choice?
Original post by finance101
I really like the course on the whole & especially cambridge. The rigor of modules depends a lot on what you take... i took some math faculty courses which are extremely rigorous (as you could probably imagine). some of the judge modules are less so. you get a lot of flexibility in terms of what you study though so you can make it as difficult as you like, and you can choose modules to suit your strengths

Asset pricing and fundamentals of competitive markets (aka advanced micro) are highly economics and maths based. but it's not excessively difficult. There is a maths/stats pre course which gives you all the tools you need in terms of calculus, matrix algebra, etc etc

I am going into a PhD, but many people in the class entering industry next year. I think there is 4-5 people from a class of 22 who will do a PhD


Hi, I am still not completely sure between the cambridge Mphil Finance and the LSE finance and econ msc.

I am pretty sure I want to do a Phd and what worries me is the lack of economics in the mphil finance (I am a maths graduate)

What kind of phd admissions do people on the programme get? did anybody get into top US PhDs?

Also, do people go in pure finance Business school programmes or do some manage to get into econ departments too?

Thanks and sorry for all the questions!
Original post by clément17
For the 17 who won't do a PhD, is it a choice?


Yes it is a choice. Everyone who applied for PhD got one

Original post by astroturf
Hi, I am still not completely sure between the cambridge Mphil Finance and the LSE finance and econ msc.

I am pretty sure I want to do a Phd and what worries me is the lack of economics in the mphil finance (I am a maths graduate)

What kind of phd admissions do people on the programme get? did anybody get into top US PhDs?

Also, do people go in pure finance Business school programmes or do some manage to get into econ departments too?

Thanks and sorry for all the questions!


there is some economics in the mphil - graduate level micro, and graduate level econometrics x 2. Plus asset pricing in the faculty of economics is very micro-focused.

I would strongly advise the mphil for phd continuation. It is purposely a research focused degree, and will add a lot of weight to phd applications, especially for US. I believe LSE MSc Finance and Econ is less research based (but I may be incorrect with that assumption)

Out of this year then the PhD placements are very strong: MIT, London Business School, Cambridge economics, Cambridge Judge, and Cambridge engineering (but related to finance i believe).

There was one person this year who got accepted into an economics phd at Cambridge. But the rest are finance. Since there are other MPhils (e.g. Economic Research in the economics faculty) for those who want to do an economics phd.
Original post by finance101
Yes it is a choice. Everyone who applied for PhD got one



there is some economics in the mphil - graduate level micro, and graduate level econometrics x 2. Plus asset pricing in the faculty of economics is very micro-focused.

I would strongly advise the mphil for phd continuation. It is purposely a research focused degree, and will add a lot of weight to phd applications, especially for US. I believe LSE MSc Finance and Econ is less research based (but I may be incorrect with that assumption)

Out of this year then the PhD placements are very strong: MIT, London Business School, Cambridge economics, Cambridge Judge, and Cambridge engineering (but related to finance i believe).

There was one person this year who got accepted into an economics phd at Cambridge. But the rest are finance. Since there are other MPhils (e.g. Economic Research in the economics faculty) for those who want to do an economics phd.

thanks, this is very useful info!

MIT you mean MIT Sloan then?

My real doubt is about factulty reputation, my grades and background is ok for PhD admission already, the problem is that I don't have any famous econ/finance professor writing letters for me (switching from a different subject)

I am looking again at the course list again and some of the lecturers are actually quite good. I will definitely think more about it!

How about the flexibility of the programme? I would have done some of the maths already... is there a possibility to take electives from other programmes (for example designing online contests of part III)?
Original post by finance101
Yes it is a choice. Everyone who applied for PhD got one



there is some economics in the mphil - graduate level micro, and graduate level econometrics x 2. Plus asset pricing in the faculty of economics is very micro-focused.

I would strongly advise the mphil for phd continuation. It is purposely a research focused degree, and will add a lot of weight to phd applications, especially for US. I believe LSE MSc Finance and Econ is less research based (but I may be incorrect with that assumption)

Out of this year then the PhD placements are very strong: MIT, London Business School, Cambridge economics, Cambridge Judge, and Cambridge engineering (but related to finance i believe).

There was one person this year who got accepted into an economics phd at Cambridge. But the rest are finance. Since there are other MPhils (e.g. Economic Research in the economics faculty) for those who want to do an economics phd.


thanks for your reply :smile:
Hey guys,

I was also admitted to the program and accepted at Darwin College. I am definitely going to attend Cambridge and am only waiting for the paperwork to be done. In the meantime, I have a question for those who are already doing the course:

Can you recommend any textbooks etc. that I could use to prepare for the core modules before the course starts? I have a lot of free time right now and I'm not too sure my math/stats skills are up to scratch, so any help/tips would be appreciated.

It might also be a cool idea to create a facebook group for the ones who got an offer and are going to attend the course.

Cheers and good luck to those still waiting to hear from the university.
Reply 158
Original post by casusa
Same stage as me then. Camsis has been down so very slow now, we may have to wait to next week to get our offers :redface:


PS! I applied in February too, but quite early.


Any news for you today?
Reply 159
Original post by casusa
Not yet, still with BOGS...

However, my MPhil Fin and Econ application moved to BOGS this afternoon too and I received an emal from the Econ Dept with my offer and conditions. They told me that I had to wait for BOGS, but that I would rceive my offer in due course :smile:

What about you?

So far nothing changed. Maybe tomorrow :smile:

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