LAW- Queen Mary or Warwick

Warwick

Why? Are you studying there?

Having gone to Queen Mary myself, I can say the law school is absolutely fantastic.

If you are doing European Law, we have an ELSA society, as well as a Law Society, Bar Society, Pro Bono Society + Women Working in Law Society.

You have the option to graduate with a University of London degree or a Queen Mary degree. The University of London is formed of other top universities like LSE, UCL, King's etc...

There are about 3 or 4 opportunities a week to network at Queen Mary as there are always solicitors and barristers visiting. We have also consistently have opportunities to visit London law firms and chambers. I'm not saying you can't do that from Warwick by any means, but it would be a lot more convenient for you if you were in London as networking is a big part of studying law.

A massive advantage is that you can become a legal advisor at the university's Legal Advice Centre and give legal advice to the public, which is a massive boost for your career opportunities.

Warwick does have an excellent reputation, possibly better than QMUL, but I believe QMUL is actually ranked higher in the law school tables than Warwick.

I'm extremely biased as I know very little about Warwick, so do get a second opinion, but if you wanted to hear from someone who is currently a law student at QM I can say it is fantastic!

I would watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76eyExpIUQA

and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rndtURpflKM

Firstly, I would pick Queen Mary because its in London, where all the magic circle firms are. Secondly, because I'm gonna go there too(although not going to study law)!
Well, a QMUL degree would be better than a generic UOL one, as the UOL degrees are commonly associated with external degrees(i.e. students can get it via distance learning, and has a system like Open University).

Reputation wise, its hard to say. Beside Oxbridge, the rest are not really too prominent outside the UK. From observation, most people here would study a normal 3 year degree(with the aim of staying in the UK to work), but in your context, a 4 year European Law degree would sound more suitable(you should check with the uni if a european law degree gives any advantage). Regarding the European exchange programme, you should check with the QMUL, to see the requirements for the programme(need to have good grades).

Here's the link for the Erasmus scheme@QMUL: http://www.qmul.ac.uk/undergraduate/erasmus/index.html
Contact info for the programme:
Law l Sheila Shirley l 020 7882 3934 l Laws G15 l [email protected]

Having gone to Queen Mary myself, I can say the law school is absolutely fantastic.

If you are doing European Law, we have an ELSA society, as well as a Law Society, Bar Society, Pro Bono Society + Women Working in Law Society.

You have the option to graduate with a University of London degree or a Queen Mary degree. The University of London is formed of other top universities like LSE, UCL, King's etc...

There are about 3 or 4 opportunities a week to network at Queen Mary as there are always solicitors and barristers visiting. We have also consistently have opportunities to visit London law firms and chambers. I'm not saying you can't do that from Warwick by any means, but it would be a lot more convenient for you if you were in London as networking is a big part of studying law.

A massive advantage is that you can become a legal advisor at the university's Legal Advice Centre and give legal advice to the public, which is a massive boost for your career opportunities.

Warwick does have an excellent reputation, possibly better than QMUL, but I believe QMUL is actually ranked higher in the law school tables than Warwick.

I'm extremely biased as I know very little about Warwick, so do get a second opinion, but if you wanted to hear from someone who is currently a law student at QM I can say it is fantastic!

I would watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76eyExpIUQA

and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rndtURpflKM

Being close to "magic circle firms`' is not a reason to pick a university. Certainly, there are lots of graduates from LSE, UCL and King's at MC firms; but there are far fewer from QMU. There are plenty of UCL, LSE and King's graduates at MC firms because of the reputation of these institutions - this has little to do with the fact that the students are located in London. I would probably pick Warwick - although both are very good. Personally, I've met far more Warwick graduates at MC firms that QMU grads.

Your reason isn't very valid either. You have given a piece of anecdotal evidence in support of your position. Unless you know the opinion of every employer in MC firms, you can't draw the conclusion that Warwick has a better reputation than QM. Reputation is hard to measure, as it is not quantitative either.

Honestly, for law, its hard to differentiate between Warwick and QM, so essentially we can argue until the cows come home. My evidence is anecdotal too, but I've heard QM's law department is quite good. By having a relatively good department, it would be likely that the students are of good quality too. It also hosts networking events with law firms, which gives the student ample opportunity to mix around with future employers. Since these firms are based in London, it would be easier for OP to do internships at these firms, and that is why being in London is a plus point.

To me, when one mentions Warwick, I immediately associate it with their Maths department, which is quite strong. Law isn't the first thing that comes to mind. Again, not saying that Warwick's law department isn't good, but that hasn't come across very strongly when speaking to others. Let's say for the sake of argument that Warwick does have a better reputation, internship opportunities are less accessible to the OP, as he has to travel all the way to London to do these internships, which would waste a lot of time travelling, and may end up doing more harm than good for the OP.

Again, if you have the numbers to prove it, good for you.


Honestly, this isn't anything 'solid' unless you have evidence to back it up, i.e.show the numbers that more firms go to Warwick than to QM.


Well, they must feel quite annoyed to travel back and forth don't they?

The OP doesn't have Oxbridge to choose from, so it doesn't make any sense to bring it up. Of course, if the poster where to choose between Oxbridge and LSE, I would say choose LSE, because of the exact same reason.

However, it is between Warwick and QM, which are difficult to differentiate. I'm saying that even if Warwick is more prestigious, is it worth the several hours of travelling to get access to the best opportunities, that QM could possibly also have access too?

You can only counter my argument if
1. You can show that an overwhelming majority of MC firms don't go to QM but go to Warwick instead.
2. QM has such a bad reputation for law that they avoid QM students or Warwick has such a good reputation for law that they would pick a Warwick student any day.

If the OP lives in London, and has a choice between Warwick and QMUL, I better have a damn good reason why I pick Warwick over QMUL. To me, the difference is negligible, I would want to pick QMUL out of convenience. Even, if he/she doesn't live in London, close proximity to magic circle firms is a plus point.

If you are convinced Warwick is better, good for you. Don't need to convince me, you need to convince the OP. You need to show the OP that there is solid evidence that Warwick has far more opportunities than QMUL. Until then, my stance remains that the difference between these two unis is that they are negligible.

Speaking as a person NOT doing law, that is my opinion. If you do have inside info that is helpful, please do share it.

Your reason isn't very valid either. You have given a piece of anecdotal evidence in support of your position. Unless you know the opinion of every employer in MC firms, you can't draw the conclusion that Warwick has a better reputation than QM. Reputation is hard to measure, as it is not quantitative either.

Honestly, for law, its hard to differentiate between Warwick and QM, so essentially we can argue until the cows come home. My evidence is anecdotal too, but I've heard QM's law department is quite good. By having a relatively good department, it would be likely that the students are of good quality too. It also hosts networking events with law firms, which gives the student ample opportunity to mix around with future employers. Since these firms are based in London, it would be easier for OP to do internships at these firms, and that is why being in London is a plus point.

To me, when one mentions Warwick, I immediately associate it with their Maths department, which is quite strong. Law isn't the first thing that comes to mind. Again, not saying that Warwick's law department isn't good, but that hasn't come across very strongly when speaking to others. Let's say for the sake of argument that Warwick does have a better reputation, internship opportunities are less accessible to the OP, as he has to travel all the way to London to do these internships, which would waste a lot of time travelling, and may end up doing more harm than good for the OP.