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Stay at home mums have the hardest job and here's why.

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Reply 60
Original post by Red one
You're absolutely right it's pathetic how people like you dismiss stay at home mums as parasites because they choose to sacrifice themselves everyday for the sake of caring for their own children rather than being selfish and going back to work less than a month after giving birth.


You're absolutely wrong. "Stay at home mums" are not sacrificing anything, the vast majority of parents want to care and tend for their child - where working becomes a burden and interferes with this. New parents should return to work as soon as possible to further contribute to the taxes that will pay for their children's education and medicine. Additionally, stay at home mums don't set a proper example for what their child should be trying to attain as a productive member of society.
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
I did answer the question, you didn't like my answer and so chose not to take it

This is just bitchy and rude

You just sound really bitter that you had a tough upbringing and are now moaning that anyone else says anything is hard


No, you waffled. As always.

Bitchy and rude? For stating the truth? God forbid I don't fall on bended knee and praise those poor, fragile souls who deserve my admiration because they actually haven't lived that much of a difficult life so far.

I didn't have a tough upbringing, thank you very much - I had a brilliant one, because my mother worked hard to give it to me, and I saw how hard she worked in spite of all that worked against her. The latter part of your post doesn't even make any sense.
Reply 62
To try and say stay at home mums have it harder than mums who go to work is just ridiculous. They do everything a stay at home mum does and still manage to go to work as well.
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
It's dramatic, but surely you've seen the bashing stay at home women get on here?


I see a lot of bashing of everything on here lol. I just chalk it up to ignorant and intolerant nerds who's knowledge only comes from biased internet articles. Don't care too much about other people's opinions unless its something important that will have an affect on me. Like when I'm asking for advice.
Original post by Meyrin
No, you waffled. As always.

Bitchy and rude? For stating the truth? God forbid I don't fall on bended knee and praise those poor, fragile souls who deserve my admiration because they actually haven't lived that much of a difficult life so far.

I didn't have a tough upbringing, thank you very much - I had a brilliant one, because my mother worked hard to give it to me, and I saw how hard she worked in spite of all that worked against her. The latter part of your post doesn't even make any sense.


No I didn't. I explained it. But you stating that doesn't make it true. You're just really bitchy with anyone who disagrees with you :lol:

See that's what I'm saying, you're being rude, and insisting because you had something you think was difficult, everyone else's problems are minor in comparison. Stop it

Then what exactly is the problem here
Reply 65
Original post by Meyrin
You did not have a point, and what little nonsense was there I responded to. Perhaps try giving it another read.




It seems like you're just posting to save face and keep up appearances now, I mean come on dude. :rolleyes:
Original post by Meyrin
There is a big difference in being conscious of payments, and actually having the responsibility of being the one who has to figure out how to pay for them, and go out and earn it, oddly enough.


Speaking about reading comprehension I have mentioned in countless posts above there's a mutual spousal understanding in place in the household -it's time you've pulled out the ol' reading glasses friend. The bread winner and the stay-at-home partner both agree to uphold their end of the bargain. Into whose bank account the income falls into has no bearing on the outcome, that is, they both worry about the bills, they both care for the household spendings and they both discuss payment plans.
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Original post by ChickenMadness
I see a lot of bashing of everything on here lol. I just chalk it up to ignorant and intolerant nerds who's knowledge only comes from biased internet articles. Don't care too much about other people's opinions unless its something important that will have an affect on me. Like when I'm asking for advice.


That sums up so much of this site :tongue:
Original post by Red one
Why is it ridiculous?

I believe that a full-time job with no pay where you're are responsible for the life and psychological development of someone else is the hardest job in the world. Come at me, bro! :gfight:


Reply 68
Original post by Gotzz
You're absolutely wrong. "Stay at home mums" are not sacrificing anything, the vast majority of parents want to care and tend for their child - where working becomes a burden and interferes with this. New parents should return to work as soon as possible to further contribute to the taxes that will pay for their children's education and medicine. Additionally, stay at home mums don't set a proper example for what their child should be trying to attain as a productive member of society.



Typical career girl mentality. You're too frivolous and self-assured to discern the selfishness of your own actions. You're dumping your children on someone else who with no doubt will not give them the same level of attention, love or care as you. Yet you delude yourself with this amusing notion that you're going out to work FOR them when it's actually for you. There's nothing wrong with going out to work and caring for your kids with money however some of us choose to care for them the ol' fashioned way: with love.

At least have the common decency to admit it to yourself.

Original post by Veem
To try and say stay at home mums have it harder than mums who go to work is just ridiculous. They do everything a stay at home mum does and still manage to go to work as well.


It depends on several factors like the level of care they give and to how many kids they care for etc, etc. I'm not denying that single parents have it bad but it's not exactly what this thread is about.
Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
I don't think you can say a certain job is the hardest, it depends on the person, but I think this is a response to the criticism that stay at home mums


Objectively speaking you can probably narrow it down though. I would never call my job the hardest because I sit in a nice warm office, I do not risk death through sheer exhaustion and my life is not at risk.

In terms of combination of sheer risk, technical difficulty, hours worked and responsibility it is for exampel hard to say being a working mum is harder than being bomb disposal in the army a la the Hurt Locker.

That's not to say working mum can't be a hard job, or that teacher, CEO, lawyer, binman, cleaner etc. can't be, just that it is hard to say it is the hardest.
Reply 70
Also if something bad happens at your job and you're responsible, likelihood is your fired. Not as bad as when something goes wrong with your child and more often than not people blame the parents.
Original post by Red one
It seems like you're just posting to save face and keep up appearances now, I mean come on dude. :rolleyes:


Speaking about reading comprehension I have mentioned in countless posts above there's a mutual spousal understanding in place in the household -it's time you've pulled out the ol' reading glasses friend. The bread winner and the stay-at-home partner both agree to uphold their end of the bargain. Into whose bank account the income falls into has no bearing on the outcome, that is, they both worry about the bills, they both care for the household spendings and they both discuss payment plans.


I think its more like, you've already been proven wrong on your OP. So theres no need to keep replying anymore.

The majority of your posts consist of insults and bashing other people's life choices and circumstances so you're not giving much to reply to lmao.
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Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
No I didn't. I explained it. But you stating that doesn't make it true. You're just really bitchy with anyone who disagrees with you :lol:

See that's what I'm saying, you're being rude, and insisting because you had something you think was difficult, everyone else's problems are minor in comparison. Stop it

Then what exactly is the problem here


You didn't explain, other posters even pointed out that all you managed to do was mindlessly repeat yourself over and over.

I'm not "bitchy", to use your word - but I don't engage in pleasantries with people who champion idiotic arguments and have given me great cause to not take them seriously. Your posts are circular, hypocritical, ignore the point entirely, tend to revolve either around yourself or your fragile ego that is easily slighted to a worrying degree, and you have a tendency to throw childlike tantrums when someone is saying something you dislike. You pretend that you don't judge people by your own standards and think yourself better than them for it, and then protest at unfair judgements of women as a whole.

You really, really need to get a grip. If you're taking offence because I disagree that being a stay-at-home mother is a difficult occupation (in the OP's words, "the hardest") then you've led a sheltered life thus far.
Original post by Red one
It seems like you're just posting to save face and keep up appearances now, I mean come on dude. :rolleyes:


Your ignorance is worrying.
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Reply 74
Original post by ChickenMadness
I think its more like, you've already been proven wrong on your OP. So theres no need to keep replying anymore.

The majority of your posts consist of insults and bashing other people's life choices and circumstances so you're not giving much to reply to lmao.



This coming from someone who punctuates his sentences with lol and lmao? Let's not forget your penchant for posting outdated memes too...


Can you quote the part where you proved me wrong? I need a good chuckle that's all.
Original post by Meyrin
You didn't explain, other posters even pointed out that all you managed to do was mindlessly repeat yourself over and over.

I'm not "bitchy", to use your word - but I don't engage in pleasantries with people who champion idiotic arguments and have given me great cause to not take them seriously. Your posts are circular, hypocritical, ignore the point entirely, tend to revolve either around yourself or your fragile ego that is easily slighted to a worrying degree, and you have a tendency to throw childlike tantrums when someone is saying something you dislike. You pretend that you don't judge people by your own standards and think yourself better than them for it, and then protest at unfair judgements of women as a whole.

You really, really need to get a grip. If you're taking offence because I disagree that being a stay-at-home mother is a difficult occupation (in the OP's words, "the hardest") then you've led a sheltered life thus far.


The other person agreeing with you was a troll :lol:

Yes you are. And that whole ad hominem paragraph insulting me won't get you anywhere. You're the kind of person that makes normal women not want to associate with feminism

Again with the ad hominems. You don't seem to be able to discuss anything without slinging personal insults..
Original post by Red one
This coming from someone who punctuates his sentences with lol and lmao? Let's not forget your penchant for posting outdated memes too...


Can you quote the part where you proved me wrong? I need a good chuckle that's all.


K.

You think being a stay at home mother with a father that pays all the bills is the most difficult job imaginable.

Thats an opinion

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Original post by Red one
You're absolutely right it's pathetic how people like you dismiss stay at home mums as parasites because they choose to sacrifice themselves everyday for the sake of caring for their own children rather than being selfish and going back to work less than a month after giving birth. .


You know what's even more pathetic? How you actually just called women who go back to work after having kids selfish! How can you complain about how people treat stay at home mums horribly when you're doing the same to women who go back to work?
I presume you think men are selfish for going back to work often less than one month after having kids?:rolleyes:
Reply 78
Original post by Meyrin
Your ignorance is worrying.



And now you're ignoring what I've said in its entirety, with a pleasant air of misguided pompousness. Because apparently consciousness of something is an acceptable (and "equally difficult") substitute for actually shouldering its burden.

Well, as someone else has already highlighted, you've made quite enough of a fool of yourself, so I'll leave it here.


You make it sound like you posted countless debate points when the truth is you've just been mulling over the same point over 3 pages.

Let me spell it out for you since your comprehension appears impaired:


Both parents shoulder the responsibility the fact that one is the bread winner doesn't make the stay at home parent a scrounger because they are a TEAM, they agreed to their living circumstance. Why else would someone pay for their spouse to stay-at-home if they weren't happy?


You went from calling stay-at-home mum's scroungers who don't worry about the bills to admitting that they are now conscious of the bills and household spending. You're flitting from one point to the next you might want to get your own stance on issue firmly grounded before you engage in a debate and mindlessly flail around akin to a child throwing it's toys out of the pram.

Some people. Sigh...
Original post by Red one

Both parents shoulder the responsibility the fact that one is the bread winner doesn't make the stay at home parent a scrounger because they are a TEAM, they agreed to their living circumstance. Why else would someone pay for their spouse to stay-at-home if they weren't happy?


So many people don't get this. Instead of two people working for £25k each part time, hardly seeing each other, wishing they didn't have to, one person works for £50k and the other person stays home to look after the child. Division of labour. They have more time together and can specialise as a result

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