The EU was Hitler's idea
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/470967/The-EU-was-HITLER-S-idea-and-it-proves-Germany-WON-the-Second-World-War-claims-new-book
'The Nazis wanted to get rid of the clutter of small nations which made up Europe and their plan was quite simple. The EU was Hitler's dream'
'The EU: The Truth About The Fourth Reich - How Hitler Won The Second World War' argues the single currency, the free market and even the phrase "United States of Europe" were all dreamt up by high ranking Nazis, including the Fuhrer himself
Thoughts?
'The Nazis wanted to get rid of the clutter of small nations which made up Europe and their plan was quite simple. The EU was Hitler's dream'
'The EU: The Truth About The Fourth Reich - How Hitler Won The Second World War' argues the single currency, the free market and even the phrase "United States of Europe" were all dreamt up by high ranking Nazis, including the Fuhrer himself
Thoughts?
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Original post by Ace123
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/470967/The-EU-was-HITLER-S-idea-and-it-proves-Germany-WON-the-Second-World-War-claims-new-book
'The Nazis wanted to get rid of the clutter of small nations which made up Europe and their plan was quite simple. The EU was Hitler's dream'
'The EU: The Truth About The Fourth Reich - How Hitler Won The Second World War' argues the single currency, the free market and even the phrase "United States of Europe" were all dreamt up by high ranking Nazis, including the Fuhrer himself
Thoughts?
'The Nazis wanted to get rid of the clutter of small nations which made up Europe and their plan was quite simple. The EU was Hitler's dream'
'The EU: The Truth About The Fourth Reich - How Hitler Won The Second World War' argues the single currency, the free market and even the phrase "United States of Europe" were all dreamt up by high ranking Nazis, including the Fuhrer himself
Thoughts?
First thoughts? This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum.
''Hurr durr, Hitler wanted the EU and therefore it is a nazi organisation!''
Hitler also wanted a ban on fox hunting. Does that mean I am ''supporting the Nazi legacy'' by being in favour of a ban on fox hunting?
When the author says, ''"It is no coincidence that just about every country in the European Union is getting poorer while Germany continues to get richer and richer'', what measure are they using? A quick check shows that Germany is not the fastest growing economy in Europe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union#Economic_growth
In addition, GDP Per Capita is a better indication of wealth and Germany is not at the top: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita.
I can only imagine that the author has made this book because it'll sell very well within the euroskeptic community.
(edited 10 years ago)
Godwin's Law to the max!
Original post by SHallowvale
First thoughts? This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum.
''Hurr durr, Hitler wanted the EU and therefore it is a nazi organisation!''
Hitler also wanted a ban on fox hunting. Does that mean I am ''supporting the Nazi legacy'' by being in favour of a ban on fox hunting?
When the author says, ''"It is no coincidence that just about every country in the European Union is getting poorer while Germany continues to get richer and richer'', what measure are they using? A quick check shows that Germany is not the fastest growing economy in Europe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union#Economic_growth
In addition, GDP Per Capita is a better indication of wealth and Germany is not at the top: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita.
I can only imagine that the author has made this book because it'll sell very well within the euroskeptic community.
''Hurr durr, Hitler wanted the EU and therefore it is a nazi organisation!''
Hitler also wanted a ban on fox hunting. Does that mean I am ''supporting the Nazi legacy'' by being in favour of a ban on fox hunting?
When the author says, ''"It is no coincidence that just about every country in the European Union is getting poorer while Germany continues to get richer and richer'', what measure are they using? A quick check shows that Germany is not the fastest growing economy in Europe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union#Economic_growth
In addition, GDP Per Capita is a better indication of wealth and Germany is not at the top: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita.
I can only imagine that the author has made this book because it'll sell very well within the euroskeptic community.
I think fox hunting and total control of Europe are slightly different. Germany is the only country benefitting from the Euro for a start whilst the others are being dragged down even France is now struggling because of it. Germany is in control of many of the nations because they have become reliant on bailouts and have to obey Germany's demands because they are bailing them out which has been caused because of the EU and Euro
Original post by Ace123
I think fox hunting and total control of Europe are slightly different. Germany is the only country benefitting from the Euro for a start whilst the others are being dragged down even France is now struggling because of it. Germany is in control of many of the nations because they have become reliant on bailouts and have to obey Germany's demands because they are bailing them out which has been caused because of the EU and Euro
Do you have any evidence of this?
The point remains, however; the claims made by the author are highly fallacious.
He probably wouldn't have liked the idea of letting Poles and other Slavs into Western Europe, so this seems unlikely
It also makes me think, so many Neo-Nazis hate the EU so make up your freaking minds guys
It also makes me think, so many Neo-Nazis hate the EU so make up your freaking minds guys
Original post by yo radical one
He probably wouldn't have liked the idea of letting Poles and other Slavs into Western Europe, so this seems unlikely
It also makes me think, so many Neo-Nazis hate the EU so make up your freaking minds guys
It also makes me think, so many Neo-Nazis hate the EU so make up your freaking minds guys
We do generally dislike it, ithe EU removes power from the state, which is not good.
No it wasn't. End of thread.
Original post by Three Mile Sprint
We do generally dislike it, ithe EU removes power from the state, which is not good.
the Fascism thing I can let slide, but seriously you are Neo-Nazi?
Original post by yo radical one
the Fascism thing I can let slide, but seriously you are Neo-Nazi?
Original post by Three Mile Sprint
I don't even believe it-it's a fantasy, like playing dress-up
I went into an army surplus shop being run by Neo-Nazis
these guys were fat, bald-headed, short middle-aged Whiteboys, certainly not master-race. I smirked as a put on a replica SS Officer's cap and claimed it was for my "interracial BDSM sessions", they didn't do anything. They offered my friend a discount for something he bought (he is pale and blond though). Just thought I'd share
Btw what are your thoughts on, y'know, Die Juden?
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by yo radical one
I don't even believe it-it's a fantasy, like playing dress-up
I went into an army surplus shop being run by Neo-Nazis
these guys were fat, bald-headed, short middle-aged Whiteboys, certainly not master-race. I smirked as a put on a replica SS Officer's cap and claimed it was for my "interracial BDSM sessions", they didn't do anything. They offered my friend a discount for something he bought (he is pale and blond though). Just thought I'd share
Btw what are your thoughts on, y'know, Die Juden?
I went into an army surplus shop being run by Neo-Nazis
these guys were fat, bald-headed, short middle-aged Whiteboys, certainly not master-race. I smirked as a put on a replica SS Officer's cap and claimed it was for my "interracial BDSM sessions", they didn't do anything. They offered my friend a discount for something he bought (he is pale and blond though). Just thought I'd share
Btw what are your thoughts on, y'know, Die Juden?
Ahhh am just messin' wit ya.
Original post by SHallowvale
First thoughts? This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum.
''Hurr durr, Hitler wanted the EU and therefore it is a nazi organisation!''
Hitler also wanted a ban on fox hunting. Does that mean I am ''supporting the Nazi legacy'' by being in favour of a ban on fox hunting?
When the author says, ''"It is no coincidence that just about every country in the European Union is getting poorer while Germany continues to get richer and richer'', what measure are they using? A quick check shows that Germany is not the fastest growing economy in Europe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union#Economic_growth
In addition, GDP Per Capita is a better indication of wealth and Germany is not at the top: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita.
I can only imagine that the author has made this book because it'll sell very well within the euroskeptic community.
''Hurr durr, Hitler wanted the EU and therefore it is a nazi organisation!''
Hitler also wanted a ban on fox hunting. Does that mean I am ''supporting the Nazi legacy'' by being in favour of a ban on fox hunting?
When the author says, ''"It is no coincidence that just about every country in the European Union is getting poorer while Germany continues to get richer and richer'', what measure are they using? A quick check shows that Germany is not the fastest growing economy in Europe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union#Economic_growth
In addition, GDP Per Capita is a better indication of wealth and Germany is not at the top: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita.
I can only imagine that the author has made this book because it'll sell very well within the euroskeptic community.
Yea im sure small former communist states a short term boost in econ growth from privatising all their assets.
Also eastern european countries get TONs in aid.
Germany has a falling population to the statistics are misleading
I thought I would re-visit this
Begin Anecdotal Evidence
Now I think you know full well that this is a poor argument.
The potential superiority of one racial group over another does not proclude that you can still fail to maintain your body, allowing yourself to get fat does not effect the claim to racial superiority, as the claim concerns genetic and social achievements and not personal fitness.
Secondly, no White Supremacist would claim the superiority lies in physical attributes, (most would accept for example that African's tend towards superior physicality) but that the proof of the superiority lies in both cultural/scientific achievements and average intelligences and a tendency towards higher IQ among whites than other racial groups.
Never seen it.
Original post by yo radical one
I don't even believe it-it's a fantasy, like playing dress-up
I went into an army surplus shop being run by Neo-Nazis
I went into an army surplus shop being run by Neo-Nazis
Begin Anecdotal Evidence
these guys were fat, bald-headed, short middle-aged Whiteboys, certainly not master-race.
Now I think you know full well that this is a poor argument.
The potential superiority of one racial group over another does not proclude that you can still fail to maintain your body, allowing yourself to get fat does not effect the claim to racial superiority, as the claim concerns genetic and social achievements and not personal fitness.
Secondly, no White Supremacist would claim the superiority lies in physical attributes, (most would accept for example that African's tend towards superior physicality) but that the proof of the superiority lies in both cultural/scientific achievements and average intelligences and a tendency towards higher IQ among whites than other racial groups.
Btw what are your thoughts on, y'know, Die Juden?
Never seen it.
Original post by James222
Yea im sure small former communist states a short term boost in econ growth from privatising all their assets.
Also eastern european countries get TONs in aid.
Also eastern european countries get TONs in aid.
So.... what?
Original post by James222
Germany has a falling population to the statistics are misleading
How? Surely if the population is falling but then the GDP per capita is even more significant (more ''wealth'' per person).?
Original post by Ace123
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/470967/The-EU-was-HITLER-S-idea-and-it-proves-Germany-WON-the-Second-World-War-claims-new-book
'The Nazis wanted to get rid of the clutter of small nations which made up Europe and their plan was quite simple. The EU was Hitler's dream'
'The EU: The Truth About The Fourth Reich - How Hitler Won The Second World War' argues the single currency, the free market and even the phrase "United States of Europe" were all dreamt up by high ranking Nazis, including the Fuhrer himself
Thoughts?
'The Nazis wanted to get rid of the clutter of small nations which made up Europe and their plan was quite simple. The EU was Hitler's dream'
'The EU: The Truth About The Fourth Reich - How Hitler Won The Second World War' argues the single currency, the free market and even the phrase "United States of Europe" were all dreamt up by high ranking Nazis, including the Fuhrer himself
Thoughts?
This is a joke thread right?
For a start Hitler hated free markets and would have rather Germany fell to socialism. Hitler invaded other countries while the EU is a federal body. The United States of Europe was actually dreampt up by the Prussians in the late 1800's and pushed by many people including Churchill. Hitler was heavily opposed to immigrants and not just jews.
Original post by Three Mile Sprint
I thought I would re-visit this
Begin Anecdotal Evidence
Now I think you know full well that this is a poor argument.
Begin Anecdotal Evidence
Now I think you know full well that this is a poor argument.
It was a fun day out I must say
Original post by Three Mile Sprint
The potential superiority of one racial group over another does not proclude that you can still fail to maintain your body, allowing yourself to get fat does not effect the claim to racial superiority, as the claim concerns genetic and social achievements and not personal fitness.
The potential superiority of one racial group over another does not proclude that you can still fail to maintain your body, allowing yourself to get fat does not effect the claim to racial superiority, as the claim concerns genetic and social achievements and not personal fitness.
It includes physical attributes surely
"A man of little scientific education but physically healthy, with a good, firm character, imbued with the joy of determination and will-power, is more valuable for the national community than a clever weakling." ~ Adolf Hitler
This sounds very much like Hitler valued physical attributes of intellectual ones, like a school bully or a thug.
Original post by Three Mile Sprint
Secondly, no White Supremacist would claim the superiority lies in physical attributes, (most would accept for example that African's tend towards superior physicality) but that the proof of the superiority lies in both cultural/scientific achievements and average intelligences and a tendency towards higher IQ among whites than other racial groups.
Secondly, no White Supremacist would claim the superiority lies in physical attributes, (most would accept for example that African's tend towards superior physicality) but that the proof of the superiority lies in both cultural/scientific achievements and average intelligences and a tendency towards higher IQ among whites than other racial groups.
These guys did not look like your Albert Einstein or your Terence Tao I assure you (hmmmm interesting examples there rad
)I mean if you want to talk about academic acumen
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2009/dec/15/gcse-statistics-free-school-meals-race-local-authorities-poverty
This seems to suggest White children are not at the top in terms of intellectual prowess, so are they an inferior race
I would say no, but I mean by your measuring stick.
Original post by Three Mile Sprint
Never seen it.
Never seen it.
I mean the Jews, is there a conspiracy?
Original post by yo radical one
It was a fun day out I must say
It includes physical attributes surely
"A man of little scientific education but physically healthy, with a good, firm character, imbued with the joy of determination and will-power, is more valuable for the national community than a clever weakling." ~ Adolf Hitler
This sounds very much like Hitler valued physical attributes of intellectual ones, like a school bully or a thug.
These guys did not look like your Albert Einstein or your Terence Tao I assure you (hmmmm interesting examples there rad)
I mean if you want to talk about academic acumen
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2009/dec/15/gcse-statistics-free-school-meals-race-local-authorities-poverty
This seems to suggest White children are not at the top in terms of intellectual prowess, so are they an inferior race
I would say no, but I mean by your measuring stick.
I mean the Jews, is there a conspiracy?
It includes physical attributes surely
"A man of little scientific education but physically healthy, with a good, firm character, imbued with the joy of determination and will-power, is more valuable for the national community than a clever weakling." ~ Adolf Hitler
This sounds very much like Hitler valued physical attributes of intellectual ones, like a school bully or a thug.
These guys did not look like your Albert Einstein or your Terence Tao I assure you (hmmmm interesting examples there rad
)I mean if you want to talk about academic acumen
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2009/dec/15/gcse-statistics-free-school-meals-race-local-authorities-poverty
This seems to suggest White children are not at the top in terms of intellectual prowess, so are they an inferior race
I would say no, but I mean by your measuring stick.
I mean the Jews, is there a conspiracy?
Damnit, I thought I could Devils Advocate this and argue for the sake of it.
I just can't do it...Neo Nazi's are dribbling retards, even the intelligent and articulate ones are fundamentally nutty.
Original post by Three Mile Sprint
Damnit, I thought I could Devils Advocate this and argue for the sake of it.
I just can't do it...Neo Nazi's are dribbling retards, even the intelligent and articulate ones are fundamentally nutty.
I just can't do it...Neo Nazi's are dribbling retards, even the intelligent and articulate ones are fundamentally nutty.
It's cool man
if it makes you feel better, I have this suspicion that even Hitler would have looked at modern Neo-Nazis with disgust
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01387/neo-nazis_1387321i.jpg
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