why do people hate private schools?

Obviously we mean on average.
I doubt there are any all black schools that exist now - the only example I can think of is in the US and obviously achievement would have been lower. Hypothetically speaking, they probably would.
Did I suggest causation? No. Studies of relationships between socio-economic factors and attainment at school have been done and have given those results. I don't make facts up.

I would of agreed if there were 50% black and 50% white in the UK; black people are the minority in the UK thus no studies regarding that would exactly be correct and reliable. So, how about the white people who have low income, how do they achieve?

So what makes splitting people up by race any different to splitting people up by gender? Why should one be OK and the other be ridiculous?

I go to an all-girls private school (well I've nearly finished now- I'm going to a co-ed sixth form). I've felt, especially through my uncertain early teenage years, that not having boys around has really helped. I've felt as though I don't need to hold back, because of worrying about embarrassing myself. There's a lot less drama about who's going out with who, and a lot less competition. I don't know how to explain it, but in an all girls environment I've felt that I can really just be myself, and everyone else can be themselves, concentrate better, and thrive.

Separation by race is an entirely different matter- that's separation due to the colour of someone's skin. You might as well separate people with blue eyes from people with brown eyes. That would be ridiculous.

Why would there have to be 50% black and 50% white for there to be a sufficiently large sample size?... Do you know how statistical testing even works on a basic level? You'd have to disregard a heck of a lot of studies, then. Black or not, countless of studies have been carried out showing that lower family income correlates with school attainment.
That's off topic; we're comparing blacks and whites as a whole and ON AVERAGE, blacks earn less.


(Blimey, I'm shocked at your use of 'would of'...)

I go to an all-girls private school (well I've nearly finished now- I'm going to a co-ed sixth form). I've felt, especially through my uncertain early teenage years, that not having boys around has really helped. I've felt as though I don't need to hold back, because of worrying about embarrassing myself. There's a lot less drama about who's going out with who, and a lot less competition. I don't know how to explain it, but in an all girls environment I've felt that I can really just be myself, and everyone else can be themselves, concentrate better, and thrive.

Separation by race is an entirely different matter- that's separation due to the colour of someone's skin. You might as well separate people with blue eyes from people with brown eyes. That would be ridiculous.

Statistics for this?

For all you know, it could turn out that in schools separated by race, people also do better. That still doesn't make it OK. Segregation is segregation, no matter what basis you choose for it.

Well Winchester manages to send 44% (at the last count) of the cohort to Oxbridge / Ivy League and damn near 100% to RG or better. So yes - unis do seem to appreciate their qualities. As to SPGS many parents have expressed concerns - probably as a result of the pressure to perform academically which can provoke rebellious responses or worse.

I meant the first part of your post, never even heard of and couldn't care less about SPGS... I don't recall "breeding" being a very important part of the Oxbridge admissions process; most people don't really take much notice of that kind of thing anymore

Blacks don't necessarily earn any fewer than whites; the only matter is due to the privation of support gained by those from families with a low income (both black and white) hence why the colour of skin doesn’t contribute to future attainment.
Would have* is what I was meant to say.

I just quoted figures a few pages ago. I think it's best for me to stop because -- no offence intended -- your responses are really wishy washy.

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Unfortunately people like you generalise a lot and also attack other people without any evidence or data to back your proposition. It is a fact that among any cohort of pupils with identical grades at A level that privately educated (public school) applicants have statistically speaking an overwhelming advantage in terms of acceptance rates at Oxbridge. This is the central finding of all the high quality research carried out by the Sutton Trust. The exact mechanism by which this mysterious process occurs is unclear. Oxbridge just trot out their mantra that the only criteria is academic potential. But in the face of identical results how can that be exercised ? The reality of course is that they are admitting people with certain social characteristics.

I went to an all girls grammar school and I ****ingnhated it. It was torturous.

I had to hold back and not be myself more because of it. Teenage girls are vindictive over the stupidest things, especially in single sex environments.

The stereotype is the minority in actual fact

My responses may be "wishy washy" whereas your responses are straight on racist.

I was speaking from experience. I'm sure you're right though. What's it like studying at Harrow? Are you at GCSE or A Level

Unfortunately people like you generalise a lot and also attack other people without any evidence or data to back your proposition. It is a fact that among any cohort of pupils with identical grades at A level that privately educated (public school) applicants have statistically speaking an overwhelming advantage in terms of acceptance rates at Oxbridge. This is the central finding of all the high quality research carried out by the Sutton Trust. The exact mechanism by which this mysterious process occurs is unclear. Oxbridge just trot out their mantra that the only criteria is academic potential. But in the face of identical results how can that be exercised ? The reality of course is that they are admitting people with certain social characteristics.

Well I guess it also depends on the person. For some girls, an all girls environment is perfect for them, for others, such as yourself, it's not. It also depends on the community you're around. The girls at my school are the nicest, most down to earth people I've ever met (well, most of them). I probably got lucky in a way but I think with the same girls and the same number of boys added to that, however nice they might have been, it would have hindered my education. But then again certain people do well in different educational environments and single-sex schools really help those who need them.

Yeah for girly stereotypically feminine girls its fine.

The girls at my school were the biggest bitches. Except the Muslim girls who were generally nice. And a couple of others.

I just got bullied throughout school.