The Arsenal Thread XIX

None of those united players are in it either tbh.

Rooney isn't in the top 10. Mata and RVP are maybes. This time a year ago they both would have been in, and dropping your opinion of them too far based on this season seems harsh.

Aguero, Suarez,Toure, Silva are the only definites really. The rest could be debated.

I gave you 25 players who are indisputably better than Cazorla. Do you have any arguments against them?

The rest, as I already said, are just players who you can make a (good or not) case for. By the end I was just dropping in names left right and centre because when you think about it, Cazorla has been ****e

Please respond to my list of 25 players better than Santi Cazorla?

Rooney isn't in the top 10. Mata and RVP are maybes. This time a year ago they both would have been in, and dropping your opinion of them too far based on this season seems harsh.

Aguero, Suarez,Toure, Silva are the only definites really. The rest could be debated.

RvP is defo in, Mata is on the edge I reckon with the likes of Sturridge.

Ramsey is a definite too.

Last season they were without a doubt but, the game move on and it's all about what have you done lately. Last season, Ramsey wasn't in, Gerrard wasn't in, Hazard wasn't in. Heck going on last season form, Ozil was in (based on Real form obvs).

But they'd proven their ability in the PL for the past 2 seasons, and only couldn't prove it again due to injury/being dropped then moving clubs. So it's not really their fault.

You missed off Christian Eriksen. He impressed me this season, second half starting to look like Spurs got the jump on all the club that passed him up. Pretty lethal from a dead ball too.


I'd also say with the United lot, gotta include DDG if you're going to include anyone, he'd first on the list if you can justify RVP or Mata he's in.

True, I agree to an extent but, you can also say the same with Ozil and he did have a good start to the season and on paper with the genuine players around him, he'll be top 10 no doubt. But with these sort of list, you have to do away with the foot notes as it leaves room for bias and selective opinions.

So you'd have Suarez, Aguero, Toure, Silva, RVP, Ramsey. What would your other 4 be?

Probably Hazard, Fernandinho, Zabaleta. Unsure of the last one. Sturridge, Koscielny, Kompany, Mata all make cases. Yours?

But we're talking PL proven so Ozil wouldn't really be. He's proven with Ronaldo, Benzema and Di Maria around him, who are all a level above their Arsenal counterparts. He did well at the start of the season true, but not enough to be top 10 imo.

The thing with 'best players' lists is they always exclude keepers and defensive players. Really you'd have to find a space for Terry, Zabaleta and De Gea (at least) in any top 10.

did zurich say 25m for cazorla as well? he was bought for 15 and has probably regressed and is 29 years old

hes worth maybe 10-12mil

Again no disagreement here. I'll also say that the united players shouldn't be considered because overall, they didn't perform well last season (majority of that to do with Moyes but it is what it is).

Well yeah, the ordinary people would ignore those players but we don't because we know it and I'd have those 3 players in my top 10. Along with Hazard, Kos, Yaya, Suarez, Sturidge, Gerrard and Rambo.

I don't think you can say RVP and Mata performed better than any of those lot overall this season. Fernandinho is probably next on the list and tbh. I'll probably have some of the Southampton lots before thinking of putting in any other United player.

Probably been talked about endlessly - but how would you fit Wilshere-Ramsey-Cazorla-Ozil-Fabregas in the same midfield?

All decent quality. All similar players. Ramsey/Ozil/Fabregas are shoe-ins. Wilshere to lose out?

Cant see how Cazorla has regressed, he's just proven himself in another league hasnt he? He's not fast and so his technical skills will allow him to play until he's well into his 30s at a good level.

+ He was bought for £15m in a Malaga firesale, we payed all the cash up front and they were desperate.

If Mata and Ozil are £40m then Santi is £25m in anyones book.