The Arsenal Thread XIX

You also have 'vastly superior resources' - 300 million that has accumulated over the past decade with little being spent. Wenger loves to sign 15 year old stars from the French league and all those free transfers. The Ozil signing was just to keep the Arsenal fans quiet so he can go another 5 seasons without spending more than 10 million on a player.

I don't understand how people think Fabregas wouldn't be a good signing cos we have other centre mids.

When u can buy a world class centre mid better than all you have got. U buy that centre mid.


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1. How do you get Fabregas, Ozil and Ramsey in the same team? None of those three will want to be on the bench for any extended amount of time.

1. Play a 4-2-2-2
2. Obviously not if arteta consistently plays there
3. Wilsheres performances are overhyped because he is English he is nowhere near the level of fabregas
4. Arsenal have 150mil in the bank and similar resources to bayern

cesc can also play as a false 9 and in a deep lying position

dress it up whatever way you want 28.4mil for one of the best midfielders in the world who wants to play for us ludicrous decision making not to sign him

Arteta / Flamini's position is the one that needs to be improved on with a better defensive midfielder. We have two of the worlds best creative midfield talents already in Ozil and Ramsey.

Our team has obvious problems. Signing Fabregas solves none of them. I don't understand how you could have watched us this season and not realise this.

Several ways. You could play a 4-3-3 with them as the three. That way it doesn't matter that you don't have a DM as you have three in the middle so it's more solid defensively than 2.

You could continue with the 4-2-3-1 and have Fabregas as a false 9.

You could play 4-2-2-2 with Ramsey in the deep two, Ozil in the attacking mid two and Fab either in the attacking mid two or in the striking two.

Anyway, you're Arsenal, one of them will be injured for a while.

A dm isn't the reason arsenal kept getting spanked don't tell me you buy in to this dm *******s I suggest you go back and take a look at the goals conceded. Why do arsenal need a dm away but seem to manage fine at home I'll give you a clue is starts with tac and ends with tics. Fabregas was a cheap world class midfielder who wanted to play for the club and could easily of been accommodated.

Your first suggestion would mean sacrificing Ramsey's attacking ability as he is the only one out of the three who can actually put in a tackle.

As for number two, why would you want to play a midfielder up front ahead of Ozil? It doesn't complement his play style at all. You're only suggesting that because Fabregas played there at Barca, a completely different team.

The 4-2-2-2 works on FIFA but in real life we would have no width and no pace and be vulnerable on the flanks.

Number 2: It could work well as long as you have pace on the wings, which you do in Walcott, Ox and possibly a new signing. Fab has played there with Iniesta in behind, that's similar to having Ozil in behind.

4-2-2-2 worked for City with similar players in Silva and Nasri. Also if Fabregas plays as one of the front 2, that leaves space for Walcott to play in the AM 2 and provide some pace and width.

Wenger dun goofed

A dm isn't the reason arsenal kept getting spanked don't tell me you buy in to this dm *******s I suggest you go back and take a look at the goals conceded. Why do arsenal need a dm away but seem to manage fine at home I'll give you a clue is starts with tac and ends with tics. Fabregas was a cheap world class midfielder who wanted to play for the club and could easily of been accommodated.

Several ways. You could play a 4-3-3 with them as the three. That way it doesn't matter that you don't have a DM as you have three in the middle so it's more solid defensively than 2.

You could continue with the 4-2-3-1 and have Fabregas as a false 9.

You could play 4-2-2-2 with Ramsey in the deep two, Ozil in the attacking mid two and Fab either in the attacking mid two or in the striking two.

Anyway, you're Arsenal, one of them will be injured for a while.

If you're acknowledging that our tactics were the reason we got spanked, you'll agree we need a more defensive overall approach away from home against the big teams. Soak up pressure better and counter attack with Ozil and pace out wide. So we need to sign a midfielder who is suited to playing defensively. Not Fabregas.

Number 2: It could work well as long as you have pace on the wings, which you do in Walcott, Ox and possibly a new signing. Fab has played there with Iniesta in behind, that's similar to having Ozil in behind.

4-2-2-2 worked for City with similar players in Silva and Nasri. Also if Fabregas plays as one of the front 2, that leaves space for Walcott to play in the AM 2 and provide some pace and width.

Wenger dun goofed

Do City play 4222 though? It's more of a 4132.

Good luck to Arsenal for their big game hammering goals of 2015.

Fabregas never really worked as a false 9 in truth, I'd prefer to just spend the cash on an actual 9 with a proven record.

Not so much any more, they did in 11-12 and 12-13 though

It's got nothing to do with playing defensively it just involves not doing suicide attacking tactics. A balanced approach. Explain to me why 8 players are ahead of play 10 minutes in vs chelsea at Stamford bridge and we get slaughtered but the team plays cautiously at the emirates and gets a result. It has absolutely nothing to do with a DM it's just awful tactics. What difference would a dm of made to the goals conceded vs city, Liverpool? Fabregas could easily of played artetas/flaminis role to a much higher
Level. I don't see why he wouldn't fit a counter attacking plan as well he would excel releasing runners from deep on the counter

Explain to me why literally every top team in Europe plays with a DM then?

It's not so much a DM, but a player who can provide energy and running. May as well throw in the towel playing Ozil and Cazorla together in big games, throw in Cesc into the mix and we have a bigger **** up

So you're telling me that Yaya and his 20 goals plays a deep role?