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The Arsenal Thread XIX
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Original post by manchesterunited15
You need to be more clear m8
He said their champions league ends in 2014 so they can finish higher the qualifiers are in august :~|
Original post by baconbutty
He said their champions league ends in 2014 so they can finish higher the qualifiers are in august :~|
You quoted all of Zurich's post so I thought you were replying to the first bit and saying you'd be out before the groups as you'd be knocked out in the 2 qualifiers.
whatever just a miscommunication
Original post by manchesterunited15
Cole left at the same time as Vieira and Pires, not Henry
wikipedia says he left in between, but Henry was a goner after the CL final, it just took an extra year.
Original post by Bound 2
wikipedia says he left in between, but Henry was a goner after the CL final, it just took an extra year.
Oh yeah, same time as Pires but a year after Vieira and a year before Henry
What are the odds of Arsenal getting 2nd in their CL group again?
Bet it's something like 1-4 odds.
Bet it's something like 1-4 odds.
Original post by Bound 2
wikipedia says he left in between, but Henry was a goner after the CL final, it just took an extra year.
He just looked at what he could have won and knew that the grass was greener.
Henry is a snake
if Chelsea went in for him after his Barca days he wouldn't have hesitated, Wenger would have not got him because of RVP.
Original post by jam278
What are the odds of Arsenal getting 2nd in their CL group again?
Bet it's something like 1-4 odds.
Bet it's something like 1-4 odds.
They're only in it for the money the CL brings them tbf, otherwise they more or less just make up the numbers nowadays.
I think Liverpool have a better chance of winning the PL than Arsenal do of winning the CL. Although both are quite unlikely when you think about it.
Original post by Isometrix
They're only in it for the money the CL brings them tbf, otherwise they more or less just make up the numbers nowadays.
I think Liverpool have a better chance of winning the PL than Arsenal do of winning the CL. Although both are quite unlikely when you think about it.
I think Liverpool have a better chance of winning the PL than Arsenal do of winning the CL. Although both are quite unlikely when you think about it.
You get £50m+ for winning the CL, so if that were true, wouldnt we be desperate to win it? 2006-2012 no doubt the CL revenues were important, I've actually seen the RBS prospectus on the Emirates loans and it was naturally made very clear on that how very important that revenue source was. We're not in that position anymore though.
But I always have to cringe at the fan of a sugar-daddy club mocking a club that worries about paying it's own way. And end of the day, if Arsenal do ever win the CL it will be off our own back, and people will respect that x100 compared with what Roman bought you, simple as that.
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Original post by Zürich
You get £50m+ for winning the CL, so if that were true, wouldnt we be desperate to win it? 2006-2012 no doubt the CL revenues were important, I've actually seen the RBS prospectus on the Emirates loans and it was naturally made very clear on that how very important that revenue source was. We're not in that position anymore though.
But I always have to cringe at the fan of a sugar-daddy club mocking a club that worries about paying it's own way. And end of the day, if Arsenal do ever win the CL it will be off our own back, and people will respect that x100 compared with what Roman bought you, simple as that.
But I always have to cringe at the fan of a sugar-daddy club mocking a club that worries about paying it's own way. And end of the day, if Arsenal do ever win the CL it will be off our own back, and people will respect that x100 compared with what Roman bought you, simple as that.
people wont respect it more. you are so funny though keep it up.
and no we wouldn't be desperate to win it because the money it costs to build a team that can win it offsets the prize money
Original post by baconbutty
people wont respect it more. you are so funny though keep it up.
and no we wouldn't be desperate to win it because the money it costs to build a team that can win it offsets the prize money
and no we wouldn't be desperate to win it because the money it costs to build a team that can win it offsets the prize money
You're telling me people dont respect the achievements of teams like BVB/AM over teams like PSG/Chelsea/City? People respect the players/managers who achieve at those clubs, but the clubs themselves are inevitably tainted as plastic.
Seriously, why on earth are you continuing to pretend to be an Arsenal fan? Plenty of people WUM on here, no need for the pretence, it's just bizarre.
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Original post by Zürich
But I always have to cringe at the fan of a sugar-daddy club mocking a club that worries about paying it's own way. And end of the day, if Arsenal do ever win the CL it will be off our own back, and people will respect that x100 compared with what Roman bought you, simple as that.
Well, just to get one thing out the way, you won't.
But no, a trophy is a trophy and in 5, 10, 15, 50, 100 years, no-one will care where the funding came from. It's about winning, and winning alone. No-one will ever remember Arsenal's last decade, a decade of being also rans, and people will remember Chelsea's trophies.
Original post by Bound 2
Well, just to get one thing out the way, you won't.
But no, a trophy is a trophy and in 5, 10, 15, 50, 100 years, no-one will care where the funding came from. It's about winning, and winning alone. No-one will ever remember Arsenal's last decade, a decade of being also rans, and people will remember Chelsea's trophies.
But no, a trophy is a trophy and in 5, 10, 15, 50, 100 years, no-one will care where the funding came from. It's about winning, and winning alone. No-one will ever remember Arsenal's last decade, a decade of being also rans, and people will remember Chelsea's trophies.
People always keep saying this. So, lets but look at the WC for example. People talk more about the dutch total football team and Zico's Brazil of the 80s than any of the German team that won the WC and everyone wants to forget about the 94 Brazil team.
Original post by Endless Blue
Yep, just this. Arsenal have been the laughing stock of the league for the last five years at least. Utd knocked them off their perch this season fortunately for them.
Seems like baconbutty tells it like it is (in most cases).
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Wonder what that makes Liverpool.
Original post by 419
Wonder what that makes Liverpool.
Not as funny as Arsenal, that's what
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Original post by 419
Wonder what that makes Liverpool.
Spot on.
When did Liverpool fans get it into their heads that they're in any position to have a go at Arsenal? Talk about ****houses in glass houses.
Their last 8 years has been an absolute shambles, achieving nothing either short term or long term. Not that Liverpool achieved anything in my lifetime before that, one year aside.Original post by Peggles_*
No, you're not.
He clearly is an Arsenal fan.
Just because he's not deluded and fickle doesn't mean he's not one of you lot.
Original post by Zürich
You get £50m+ for winning the CL, so if that were true, wouldnt we be desperate to win it? 2006-2012 no doubt the CL revenues were important, I've actually seen the RBS prospectus on the Emirates loans and it was naturally made very clear on that how very important that revenue source was. We're not in that position anymore though.
But I always have to cringe at the fan of a sugar-daddy club mocking a club that worries about paying it's own way. And end of the day, if Arsenal do ever win the CL it will be off our own back, and people will respect that x100 compared with what Roman bought you, simple as that.
But I always have to cringe at the fan of a sugar-daddy club mocking a club that worries about paying it's own way. And end of the day, if Arsenal do ever win the CL it will be off our own back, and people will respect that x100 compared with what Roman bought you, simple as that.
I wonder what your attitude towards Arsenal would be if they were taken over by a sugar daddy? (genuine question, not taking the piss
)Original post by manchesterunited15
I wonder what your attitude towards Arsenal would be if they were taken over by a sugar daddy? (genuine question, not taking the piss )
)We have an Uzbek who own 30% of our shares desperate to gain control, and he's richer than RA. But almost everyone I know is against it, I would say that about 20% of our fan base would welcome it. If it did happen people would just have to accept it probably since fan power is so pitiful in England but it would taint the club big time.
I honestly think that if an owner came in and spent £500m and we won the CL, that it would feel cheap. Like using cheats on Football manager or something. And if other fans wanted to taunt our achievements as plastic, what could I say? they'd be right.
End of the day, a club like Chelsea with very little long term tradition or character will tolerate Roman in and out of the dressing room, collecting the trophy, running the club for his own enjoyment but at clubs like Arsenal(and Liverpool/Utd) it's something people wont accept. End of the day, the alternative for CFC was another 100 years of midtable obscurity, so they sold what little soul they had. Arsenal fans love to moralise, but we genuinely are above that ****.
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Original post by manchesterunited15
I wonder what your attitude towards Arsenal would be if they were taken over by a sugar daddy? (genuine question, not taking the piss )
)The day before I start supporting the club in hiatus.
Thank god this nightmare won't happen.
Original post by Zürich
We have an Uzbek who own 30% of our shares desperate to gain control, and he's richer than RA. But almost everyone I know is against it, I would say that about 20% of our fan base would welcome it. If it did happen people would just have to accept it probably since fan power is so pitiful in England but it would taint the club big time.
I honestly think that if an owner came in and spent £500m and we won the CL, that it would feel cheap. Like using cheats on Football manager or something. And if other fans wanted to taunt our achievements as plastic, what could I say? they'd be right.
End of the day, a club like Chelsea with very little long term tradition or character will tolerate Roman in and out of the dressing room, collecting the trophy, running the club for his own enjoyment but at clubs like Arsenal(and Liverpool/Utd) it's something people wont accept. End of the day, the alternative for CFC was another 100 years of midtable obscurity, so they sold what little soul they had. Arsenal fans love to moralise, but we genuinely are above that ****.
I honestly think that if an owner came in and spent £500m and we won the CL, that it would feel cheap. Like using cheats on Football manager or something. And if other fans wanted to taunt our achievements as plastic, what could I say? they'd be right.
End of the day, a club like Chelsea with very little long term tradition or character will tolerate Roman in and out of the dressing room, collecting the trophy, running the club for his own enjoyment but at clubs like Arsenal(and Liverpool/Utd) it's something people wont accept. End of the day, the alternative for CFC was another 100 years of midtable obscurity, so they sold what little soul they had. Arsenal fans love to moralise, but we genuinely are above that ****.
How come Usmanov can't gain control, are the others refusing to sell up?
I agree, it wouldn't be the same winning trophies when you've had hundreds of millions handed to you.
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