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Is skin colour, gender & sexuality a valid way of assessing people

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Yes, it's common sense. You don't have time to learn the "unique snowflake" personalities of the entire population so you go with the information contained in stereotypes, which generally holds, and if you accumulate more data on a particular individual then you can adjust if necessary. Wilfully ignoring known trends because you subscribe to the communist doctrine that prejudice is evil is just symbolic of low intelligence.
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Original post by SpikeyTeeth
"Is skin colour, gender & sexuality a valid way of making a first impression of people? For instance you could say he is a black man therefore more likely to be a fast runner, or a brown man therefore more likely to be a good sole proprietor or computer programmer, or he is a white man therefore might be good at engineering.

Or you might say he is male therefore reasonable at maths or she is female, therefore good at reading people's body language and feelings.

Or you could say he is gay and therefore likely to be aware of the latest fashion trends, or he is straight therefore more likely to have children."



Urm, no?! That is such an old fashioned view! Maybe you need a reality check, I would have thought that in this day and age that we would be able to accept that people are of different race, religion, gender and sexuality yet we don't have to fit into any sort of personality or class system that is deemed fit by the minority.



When you talk about "this day and age" you talk as if the politics sensibilities of today are set in stone. They are not. There surely could be some practical reasons for discriminating for example the use of enhanced police stop and search for races which are more likely to commit crime, or the use of enhance airport security checks for young men deducted to religions that might pose a higher risk, or perhaps questioning for BBC employed celebrities who are seen with young children.




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Original post by thesabbath
Yes, it's common sense. You don't have time to learn the "unique snowflake" personalities of the entire population so you go with the information contained in stereotypes, which generally holds, and if you accumulate more data on a particular individual then you can adjust if necessary. Wilfully ignoring known trends because you subscribe to the communist doctrine that prejudice is evil is just symbolic of low intelligence.


To what extent are stereotypes useful? Although stereotypes tend to have a degree of accuracy, many don't, and some derive from crude caricatures. You obviously don't have time to learn the unique personalities of the entire population, but it's evident that many people don't conform to their stereotypes. Therefore, in most cases, it's not very sensible or useful to make assumptions about individuals based on the stereotypes of a race/gender/sexuality. Using OP's example, assuming gay men on the whole are more aware of the latest fashion trends, and this forms part of their stereotype, it would still be stupid to immediately assume that any one gay man would be more aware of them than any one straight man.
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Yes, it is. It doesn't mean you are right but you always judge people even based on other thing like if they are stumbling over when they walk you don't know what's wrong but you avoid them, no? I would lol Well if someone thinks something about me because I am brown/Indian or woman or young or that,they will feel silly when I prove them wrong is all. :smile: People will judge.
Original post by TheTranshumanist
To what extent are stereotypes useful? Although stereotypes tend to have a degree of accuracy, many don't, and some derive from crude caricatures. You obviously don't have time to learn the unique personalities of the entire population, but it's evident that many people don't conform to their stereotypes. Therefore, in most cases, it's not very sensible or useful to make assumptions about individuals based on the stereotypes of a race/gender/sexuality. Using OP's example, assuming gay men on the whole are more aware of the latest fashion trends, and this forms part of their stereotype, it would still be stupid to immediately assume that any one gay man would be more aware of them than any one straight man.


If the first thing I learn about someone is their sexuality then I am certainly going to stereotype them.
Original post by thesabbath
If the first thing I learn about someone is their sexuality then I am certainly going to stereotype them.


It'd be very very difficult for that to be the first thing you learn.
Probably you'd at least get their race and gender or if you can't tell their gender you'd know that they were at least not conforming to a very strict binary.

And it's not like you're going to get 'I'm pansexual, and my name is MiniMarshmallow'...
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Original post by thesabbath
If the first thing I learn about someone is their sexuality then I am certainly going to stereotype them.


To what extent can you reasonably stereotype someone based solely on their sexuality?
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Original post by Lydia24



When you talk about "this day and age" you talk as if the politics sensibilities of today are set in stone. They are not. There surely could be some practical reasons for discriminating for example the use of enhanced police stop and search for races which are more likely to commit crime, or the use of enhance airport security checks for young men deducted to religions that might pose a higher risk, or perhaps questioning for BBC employed celebrities who are seen with young children.


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So this makes it right, does it? Again, here you have just summarized the minority. You say that it is only people of certain races who get stopped and searched, but that is only because this is all that you hear of. English people also get stopped, as believe it or not, we're not perfect either, and it is part of the police's duty to carry out these searches.

So, if a white vindictive English girl is sat next to me at a bus-stop (for example), does that automatically make me vindictive and a cow? No, because, everybody's different, and these silly stereo-types cannot be used to sum up an entire class of people. And the sooner people get that the better.

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