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Russian vs Arabic vs Mandarin

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Original post by jm925
Just a note - I use Quizlet for languages which I'd thoroughly recommend. It gets a bit complicated when you've got another alphabet but for Russian I just switch my phone keyboard and use the app :smile:


Duolingo is also really good :smile:


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Original post by El.Guapo
What do you find difficult?


The grammar. There's a table you have to learn of how to pronounce Verbs based on the letters in them, it sounds really confusing and it is. I still don't know it properly so I'm going to make it my mission this summer
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Original post by Calllu-m
The grammar. There's a table you have to learn of how to pronounce Verbs based on the letters in them, it sounds really confusing and it is. I still don't know it properly so I'm going to make it my mission this summer


Sounds like a real mushkela... Good luck.

Which version of Arabic are you learning?
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Original post by El.Guapo
Sounds like a real mushkela... Good luck.

Which version of Arabic are you learning?


Modern standard and I want to learn either Egyptian or the Gulf dialect
Original post by Calllu-m
Al kitaab and alif ba are good introductory texts and there's an old grammar book a friend gave me. I'd use YouTube to look up pronunciation of letters


Ah, pronunciation I can do from reading Quran and that.

I'll have a look.
Reply 25
Original post by Calllu-m
Modern standard and I want to learn either Egyptian or the Gulf dialect


I presume modern standard is what they use at organisations like the U.N.?
Original post by El.Guapo
I presume modern standard is what they use at organisations like the U.N.?


Yeah, it would be.
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Original post by jm925
Just a note - I use Quizlet for languages which I'd thoroughly recommend. It gets a bit complicated when you've got another alphabet but for Russian I just switch my phone keyboard and use the app :smile:


Hey, thanks. Looks really useful!
Original post by El.Guapo
I presume modern standard is what they use at organisations like the U.N.?


Yeah it's the formal dialect - fusha, as opposed to amiya, the regional dialects
Original post by El.Guapo
Lol, of course not. I was just trying to offer an indication of my linguistic abilities.


Not to discourage you but Arabic is very hard and if you dedicate full time efforts with a teacher who has mastered this language it'll still take many years. Its beneficial if you have almost complete command over Persian, Urdu Etc

The single word كَتَبَ tells:
1) The Verb
2) Tense whether Past/Present/Future
3) How many persons are involved (One, two or more than two)
4) Person doing the verb is a male or a female.
5) The person who does the verb is known or not.
6) At the time of speech was the person present there or not?

Another thing is Google Translate wont help you with this (Google translates كَتَبَ to Books) and any other translation program wont give as much detail (It would say كَتَبَ means Write)
Original post by Enoxial
Not to discourage you but Arabic is very hard and if you dedicate full time efforts with a teacher who has mastered this language it'll still take many years. Its beneficial if you have almost complete command over Persian, Urdu Etc

The single word كَتَبَ tells:
1) The Verb
2) Tense whether Past/Present/Future
3) How many persons are involved (One, two or more than two)
4) Person doing the verb is a male or a female.
5) The person who does the verb is known or not.
6) At the time of speech was the person present there or not?

Another thing is Google Translate wont help you with this (Google translates كَتَبَ to Books) and any other translation program wont give as much detail (It would say كَتَبَ means Write)


But it's just a bunch of inflections and that.
Original post by L'Evil Fish
But it's just a bunch of inflections and that.


Isn't that one of the things that make it interesting?
Original post by Enoxial
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Yeah, it's fun! But I wouldn't say it were overly difficult.
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Original post by Enoxial
Not to discourage you but Arabic is very hard and if you dedicate full time efforts with a teacher who has mastered this language it'll still take many years. Its beneficial if you have almost complete command over Persian, Urdu Etc

The single word كَتَبَ tells:
1) The Verb
2) Tense whether Past/Present/Future
3) How many persons are involved (One, two or more than two)
4) Person doing the verb is a male or a female.
5) The person who does the verb is known or not.
6) At the time of speech was the person present there or not?

Another thing is Google Translate wont help you with this (Google translates كَتَبَ to Books) and any other translation program wont give as much detail (It would say كَتَبَ means Write)


Shokran - that's really interesting!! I suppose one of the reason I would go for Arabic would be because it's less vulnerable to machine translation...
Original post by El.Guapo
Shokran - that's really interesting!! I suppose one of the reason I would go for Arabic would be because it's less vulnerable to machine translation...


Good point, because then you can't easily be replaced.
Original post by El.Guapo
Shokran - that's really interesting!! I suppose one of the reason I would go for Arabic would be because it's less vulnerable to machine translation...


I think its Shukran but spelling doesn't matter unless you convey your view :lol:
Good Luck :h:
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Original post by Enoxial
I think its Shukran but spelling doesn't matter unless you convey your view :lol:
Good Luck :h:


Convey my view?
Original post by L'Evil Fish
你知道学中文

Does that appeal to you?

Or...

Я тебя... Can't remember anything :frown: jheez

Or
ال قاتلي قطعة مني

люблю?
Op, know nothing about chinese but both arabic and russian are interesting, opening a whole other cultural universe.
in terms of difficulty, its kinda hard to say, but i think russian based on your background.
Original post by Harrie Lyons
люблю?
Op, know nothing about chinese but both arabic and russian are interesting, opening a whole other cultural universe.
in terms of difficulty, its kinda hard to say, but i think russian based on your background.


Yes!!! Lyebyeloo
Original post by L'Evil Fish
Yes!!! Lyebyeloo


lyebyeloo?
reminds me of the russia's most famous poem:
Я вас любил: любовь ещё, быть может,
В душе моей угасла не совсем;
Но пусть она вас больше не тревожит;
Я не хочу печалить вас ничем.
Я вас любил безмолвно, безнадежно,
То робостью, то ревностью томим;
Я вас любил так искренно, так нежно,
Как дай вам Бог любимой быть другим.
put in я вас люблю in ggogla and th english will come up.

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