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The Arsenal Thread XX
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Original post by baconbutty
Can he do a job as a lone striker? We're an injury away from yaya sanogo leading out title challenge
Sanchez and Walcott can play up front, with the latter preferring to play there.
Original post by Stalin
Sanchez and Walcott can play up front, with the latter preferring to play there.
Walcotts injured and has sanchez played as a lone striker?
Original post by baconbutty
Walcotts injured and has sanchez played as a lone striker?
Did you watch him for Chile in the World Cup?
We could always play Ozil as a false 9.
Wilshere DM
OX Ramsey Sanchez
Ozil
OX Ramsey Sanchez
Ozil
Even with Walcott injured, we can play the OX there, or Rosicky, or Gnabry, or even Poldi and have him cut in and use his hammer of a left foot.
Would you be content with Sanchez, Remy, Debuchy, DM, CB if Verm leaves, and a GK?
(edited 9 years ago)
Original post by Stalin
Did you watch him for Chile in the World Cup?
We could always play Ozil as a false 9.
Even with Walcott injured, we can play the OX there, or Rosicky, or Gnabry, or even Poldi and have him cut in and use his hammer of a left foot.
Would you be content with Sanchez, Remy, Debuchy, DM, CB if Verm leaves, and a GK?
We could always play Ozil as a false 9.
Wilshere DM
OX Ramsey Sanchez
Ozil
OX Ramsey Sanchez
Ozil
Even with Walcott injured, we can play the OX there, or Rosicky, or Gnabry, or even Poldi and have him cut in and use his hammer of a left foot.
Would you be content with Sanchez, Remy, Debuchy, DM, CB if Verm leaves, and a GK?
If ozils last 14 months are anything to go by ive got no confidence in him starting in his favourite position never mind false 9.
Ox, rosicky, gnabry starting up front is just a disaster for a top club and podolski is terrible up front usually. Dreadful linkup play and is static
Original post by baconbutty
If ozils last 14 months are anything to go by ive got no confidence in him starting in his favourite position never mind false 9.
Ox, rosicky, gnabry starting up front is just a disaster for a top club and podolski is terrible up front usually. Dreadful linkup play and is static
Ox, rosicky, gnabry starting up front is just a disaster for a top club and podolski is terrible up front usually. Dreadful linkup play and is static
Ox, Rosicky, Gnabry and Podolski starting RW instead of Walcott, hence the cutting in onto his left for Podolski.
Original post by baconbutty
I don't support depth at the cost of overpaying though. If we sign sanchez can we afford a rb, cm and striker?
Well if it's a choice between overpaying for quality players or underpaying for dross what would you choose? We've been promised that we can compete with the elite for years and finally there is some evidence that the club are delivering on that promise. No more **** signings like Andre Santos and Chamakh. Those signings made the club a laughing stock. The clubs we are aiming to compete for the league with are all paying huge sums for players. Value for money doesn't seem to be a deciding factor. At some point you have to accept that fact and do the same.
Where do you get your enjoyment from supporting Arsenal as you seem to be critical about pretty much everything the club does.. Genuine question?
Original post by baconbutty
If ozils last 14 months are anything to go by ive got no confidence in him starting in his favourite position never mind false 9.
First season.
And playing Ozil as a false 9 will enable us to play Wilshere and Ramsey centrally, both of whom are able to run beyond Ozil.
Wilshere DM
OX Ramsey Sanchez
Ozil
OX Ramsey Sanchez
Ozil
Somewhat similar to City if their strikers were injured:
Fernandinho Fernando
Navas Toure Nasri
Silva
Navas Toure Nasri
Silva
With Fernando holding, whilst Fernandinho and Toure make runs beyond Silva.
Ox, rosicky, gnabry starting up front is just a disaster for a top club and podolski is terrible up front usually. Dreadful linkup play and is static
I said the aforementioned players could replace Walcott on the wing, not up front.
Original post by De Chirico
Well if it's a choice between overpaying for quality players or underpaying for dross what would you choose? We've been promised that we can compete with the elite for years and finally there is some evidence that the club are delivering on that promise. No more **** signings like Andre Santos and Chamakh. Those signings made the club a laughing stock. The clubs we are aiming to compete for the league with are all paying huge sums for players. Value for money doesn't seem to be a deciding factor. At some point you have to accept that fact and do the same.
Where do you get your enjoyment from supporting Arsenal as you seem to be critical about pretty much everything the club does.. Genuine question?
Where do you get your enjoyment from supporting Arsenal as you seem to be critical about pretty much everything the club does.. Genuine question?
He doesn't.
Original post by Stalin
First season.
And playing Ozil as a false 9 will enable us to play Wilshere and Ramsey centrally, both of whom are able to run beyond Ozil.
Somewhat similar to City if their strikers were injured:
With Fernando holding, whilst Fernandinho and Toure make runs beyond Silva.
I said the aforementioned players could replace Walcott on the wing, not up front.
And playing Ozil as a false 9 will enable us to play Wilshere and Ramsey centrally, both of whom are able to run beyond Ozil.
Wilshere DM
OX Ramsey Sanchez
Ozil
OX Ramsey Sanchez
Ozil
Somewhat similar to City if their strikers were injured:
Fernandinho Fernando
Navas Toure Nasri
Silva
Navas Toure Nasri
Silva
With Fernando holding, whilst Fernandinho and Toure make runs beyond Silva.
I said the aforementioned players could replace Walcott on the wing, not up front.
Can sanchez play on the left? Will he even want to especially in a system with a false 9?
Can ozil play that role? Nothing I've seen of him would suggest this system would work sanchez/ox/rosicky/podolski aren't players who are going to consistently look to run in behind/stretch the game
I also have absolutely no faith in jacky wilsha. Why does he sit on the ground every time he's tackled it's so ****ing frustrating watching him time and time again do a pathetic dribble attempt then sit on the floor whilst we get countered
Original post by baconbutty
Can sanchez play on the left? Will he even want to especially in a system with a false 9?
He's right-footed - so having him cutting in from the left would lead to more chances.
Can ozil play that role? Nothing I've seen of him would suggest this system would work sanchez/ox/rosicky/podolski aren't players who are going to consistently look to run in behind/stretch the game
Sanchez, OX and Rosicky don't run behind/stretch the game?
I also have absolutely no faith in jacky wilsha. Why does he sit on the ground every time he's tackled it's so ****ing frustrating watching him time and time again do a pathetic dribble attempt then sit on the floor whilst we get countered
The vast majority of Arsenal fans had even less faith in Ramsey prior to last season.
Original post by Stalin
He's right-footed - so having him cutting in from the left would lead to more chances.
Sanchez, OX and Rosicky don't run behind/stretch the game?
The vast majority of Arsenal fans had even less faith in Ramsey prior to last season.
Sanchez, OX and Rosicky don't run behind/stretch the game?
The vast majority of Arsenal fans had even less faith in Ramsey prior to last season.
No sanchez/ox/rosicky don't look to run in behind.
Infact that's a reason sanchez was so poor at barca because he was asked to perform that role.
Ox occasionally runs in behind
can't remember the last time rosicky got in behind a defence it's been so long
How would him cutting inside lead to more chances and if that's the case whys nobody else picked up on this in his career and put it in to practice?
If you guys constantly call him a troll why do you quote every post he makes? smh
Original post by baconbutty
No sanchez/ox/rosicky don't look to run in behind.
They do.
Infact that's a reason sanchez was so poor at barca because he was asked to perform that role.
You high?
How would him cutting inside lead to more chances
For the same reasons Robben, Ribery, Ronaldo and Bale cut inside.
and if that's the case whys nobody else picked up on this in his career and put it in to practice?
Call up his former managers and ask them.
Original post by Stalin
They do.
You high?
For the same reasons Robben, Ribery, Ronaldo and Bale cut inside.
Call up his former managers and ask them.
You high?
For the same reasons Robben, Ribery, Ronaldo and Bale cut inside.
Call up his former managers and ask them.
His games never been based around running in behind he's had to sacrifice himself in that regard for messi at barca and was the reason he was so poor. I don't think you've watched him at all.
Sanchez's skillset is nothing like Ronaldo, Riberys, Robben or Ronaldo's luckily you aren't a manager xD
Ox you could say might work in a false 9 system at a push even then his runs in behind are nowhere near to the level required or consistent enough. ( Walcott would fit the system perfectly funnily enough and everyone would agree he's a unique player in arsenals team)
Sigh another guy who talks out his arse the last thing we need in here
Original post by Stalin
Did you watch him for Chile in the World Cup?
We could always play Ozil as a false 9.
Even with Walcott injured, we can play the OX there, or Rosicky, or Gnabry, or even Poldi and have him cut in and use his hammer of a left foot.
Would you be content with Sanchez, Remy, Debuchy, DM, CB if Verm leaves, and a GK?
We could always play Ozil as a false 9.
Wilshere DM
OX Ramsey Sanchez
Ozil
OX Ramsey Sanchez
Ozil
Even with Walcott injured, we can play the OX there, or Rosicky, or Gnabry, or even Poldi and have him cut in and use his hammer of a left foot.
Would you be content with Sanchez, Remy, Debuchy, DM, CB if Verm leaves, and a GK?
Sanchez does not play as a lone striker for Chile. He's a supporting forward for them while Edu Vargas or Pinilla is the striker.
That false 9 system is ridiculous as said already neither wingers look to run in behind defences, they are more creative. Ox has time on his side to learn how to make runs to stretch defences, but Sanchez is unlikely to adapt his game to that. He looked poor for Barca because of this. Last season he was getting more touches of the ball rather than just supporting Messi so he did better.
That false 9 system will not work and I can guarantee that Wenger will not use that system once this season. He'll rather play Sanogo if Giroud gets injured or Walcott when he becomes fit.
Original post by Stalin
They do.
You high?
For the same reasons Robben, Ribery, Ronaldo and Bale cut inside.
Call up his former managers and ask them.
You high?
For the same reasons Robben, Ribery, Ronaldo and Bale cut inside.
Call up his former managers and ask them.
1st bit, they don't.
Bale, Ribery, Robben and Ronaldo are much more direct than the likes of Sanchez and Rosicky and look to make runs behind defences, they are good at long range shooting. Although Ribery is the closest person to Sanchez on this list they are different players.
We're spending big going for top players and some of you guys are complaining smh. There's no pleasing some Arsenal fans.
Original post by Zürich
Absolutely love how players are immediately downgraded once they join Arsenal. The revisionism is brilliantly creative
No downgrading to Sanchez. I've made my feelings about Sanchez and Ozil pretty clear for the past year or so, even before Arsenal were linked with him.
If you got Di Maria last year or even a Pedro e.g. I would have had no complaints whatsoever. Been saying that for over a year now. Sanchez like Ozil is an upgrade on what you have, but not necessarily what you need for that position. Personally Pedro would have been the better option.
Sanchez does have a high workrate which you guys have been lacking with having Ozil and Cazorla in the same team.
Original post by jam278
That false 9 system will not work
That false 9 system will not work
It could, in a 433 and preferably with Walcott and not Ox on the wing. Would be similar to how Martino used Cesc and Alexis, which was the system that helped him improve his scoring numbers. Özil would drop deeper and roam around more, similar to Cesc, which leaves space in the middle for Alexis to roam into and to get into scoring positions.
Original post by jam278
Been saying that for over a year now. Sanchez like Ozil is an upgrade on what you have, but not necessarily what you need for that position. Personally Pedro would have been the better option.
A true winger as such would perhaps be a better option, but Pedro? I don't get why Alexis tends to get downplayed due to his poor numbers, but Pedro gets so much recognition on here (not necessarily adressing you here) when his numbers aren't better even though he was played on his preferred position while Alexis wasn't. And while Pedro runs up and down the flank more than Alexis does, he's mainly a threat when not having to provide width/stretch play, just like Alexis, so I don't see much of an improvement in having him over an arguably much better albeit different player like Alexis.
(edited 9 years ago)
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