Nursing Director

I understand you're keen and ambitious, but a post like this would be decades away for you from now. You've not even started training as a pre reg student yet, I'd focus on getting onto that course first. You need years of experience, years of management experience at bands seven and eight and be able to beat all the other competition in highly competitive interviews.

I honestly don't understand why anyone who wants to do nursing would want to be a director of nursing, you never get to work with patients, are tied up in meetings, briefings and investigations and pretty much most of your interaction to do with patients will be when they've made a serious complaint that you have to investigate. Personally, I went into nursing to look after patients, when I'm old and my back has been put out from moving too many patients with the fuller figure I'll probably look at going into nurse education.

I know I've answered a few of your threads like this in a pretty negative fashion, however, I know what nurses are like, if you turn up telling people you're wanting to become a nurse practitioner or a director of nursing as a pre reg student they're not likely to take it as a positive attitude. They will assume you're not interested in learning about their role or make the assumption that you think you're above them (whether true or not). Nurses can be funny creatures. The best advice I can give you when wanting to do your nurse training it to focus on your placements and completing your course, make a good impression on placement, they'll remember you when recruiting and in job interviews. Doing well as a pre reg student is the best way to start doing well as a newly qualified nurse, which leads onto bigger and better things.

Okay thank you moonkatt. It do make sense why they react in a negative way. The reason I would like to be a director is because I enjoy academia and also wouldn't you able to establish changes to deliver a better service for the patients?. Of course, I do wish to be a mental health nurse but I want to progress up the rankings rather than stay at the same level.

But like you said I suppose that is the best way to do things, and who knows once I become a nurse I may well feel so rewarded with my job that I do not want to progress

I suppose it's a position where you can make changes in the system, but it's so far detached from what I see as nursing that I don't really have an interest in it.

I suppose it's a position where you can make changes in the system, but it's so far detached from what I see as nursing that I don't really have an interest in it.

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If you want to have a management career in the nhs then join the management scheme. Fast track you into a management job.

Nurse director/chief nurse isn’t clinical at that level so it’s a waste of clinical skill set in my opinion.

On the other hand, AHPs: Physio, Podiatrist, Speech therapists maintain some clinical hand as well as become professional leads. AHPs earn more then nurses and have much more clinical autonomy and can work in private practice in combination of the nhs.

I'm interested in management but also want a medical qualification behind me so if I was to be managing a department and there was an occasion I needed to help a patient or when there is a rush in A&E, for example, I would be able to help and contribute. It is inspiring to see doctors and nurses during this pandemic however I do not know if I want to be full-time medical professional, any advice?

Sounds good.

I guess if you did Physio and specialized in ITU and worked up to an advanced practitioner/consultant ITU Physio which is a combination of a Clinical and Managerial role, that would be the way to go.

I am a Physio working as a Specialist Musculoskeletal Practitioner in the NHS and we are lead by a consultant level Physio who is an advanced Practitioner (Inject, Prescribe, order scans, bloods sonography, work in consultant clinics) as well as Leading the profession from a strategic element. Salary is around 60K. So there is a split between management and clinical.

Nursing unfortunately doesn't have this. Staff nurse then senior nurse (30K roughly) which is abit of managerial and clinic - then after that matron which is around 45k - which is now non clinical in most NHS trusts.

Nursing unfortunately doesn't have this. Staff nurse then senior nurse (30K roughly) which is abit of managerial and clinic - then after that matron which is around 45k - which is now non clinical in most NHS trusts.

You seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder with the nursing profession. Almost every post you make on threads like this seem to involve you going on about how you can go into advanced practice roles as a physio whilst also shitposting about nursing. There are shed loads of advanced practice roles out there that are not only available to, but are often dominated and led by nurses.

I’m a band 7 specialist nurse and my clinical/admin is probably split at about 80/20% it’s not all managerial once nurses get past band 6, there are many other nurses in advanced practice roles with a similar split in workload. I’ve even worked with a number of consultant nurses who run their own services, just like the consultant physios you describe.

Healthcare is based heavily on teamwork, it looks bad if you trample over everyone else in a mission to make yourself look good.