Race dating opinions.

That awkward moment when black isn't a race thus you cannot put it in a racial class.


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Wut? How is black not a race?

The reason why a lot of mixed race girls keep their hair natural is not because their hair is easier to manage!!!

Looking at some of the threads by guys who are not really into black girls.
I can see some of the issues.
It seems largely people have no problem with dating black girls.
But guys from affluent backgrounds who look for marriage tend to have a problem.

most youngsters dont really think far ahead logistically in terms of marriage.
for most youngsters its just about finding someone you love.
leading a family as a unit or a house hold is rarely thought about.
the exception is young people from affluent backgrounds. their family is often affluent for a reason. because they view partners in this house hold management way.
for example they marry into wealth.
most kids from our generation don't really care about that. and when they do its very trashy gold digger girls.

affluent people operate like this.
your parents have "parties" (not raves but like champagne, hors d'oeuvres and bruno mars back ground music.)
where they get all their rich friends and all their kids to come round.
they put all the kids together and let them socialise.
these are all people with businesses and high education. who will see that their children do well and can provide business opportunities for each other and each others kids. "oh daniel jr has graduated as an architect? well there is a place for him at my company waiting for him" that kind of thing. those kids will maintain their links with those other rich kids and become the new parents with their own kids. always expending and gaining wealth.

so your a white british person from a middle class family. your parents own at least 1 business and you drive a 4x4.
thats the profile of this guy.

dating a minority.
minorities complain a lot because they have it hard.

so why would you want to date someone that complains about your privilege when you could just date someone like you and only worry about 1 difference. gender.

they have it hard
if you have it easy. and your looking for a wife to start a family with. why are you going to choose a women who has it hard?
surely dating another who is just as if not more successful than you. you want to marry someone that will help you move forward.
not carry someone who complains that will take you a step back.

kids.
having mixed race kids its difficult.
your going to be raising someone who is going to have a very different experience in life. plus have a very different identity to you. this difference between you and your own child will make it difficult for you to understand things from your child's point of view and therefor will be less able to coach your child through life as you would a child that had a very similar identity to you. not only this. but your child is going to inherit the same minority status as the women you have the child with.

so even if you've married this women and moved her into a nice big house and you've both got nice big jobs and you send your kid to a nice big school. at that school. at those "parties" you have. your kids will always be the minority.

even in a city like london that is probably the most mixed city in the world in my opinion i doubt you would find many mixed race children in the posh grammar schools. i mean two parents from different races means your kid is going to be a minority of a minority.

anyway... all stuff to think about.

First things first, I just want to put this to you - being a person from an ethnic minority is not a bad thing, nor a stigma. Being a person from a ethnic minority doesn't not make you into some kind of untouchable or a less desirable person to be in contact with. Personally, I find your use of the phrase "a minority" insulting and degrading in comparison with "a white British person", as if a person's ethnicity shrouds or sullies their state as a person. Or as if simply being from ethnic minority has set them back 10 steps in life already, regardless of anything else.

Next there is your wonderful generalisation of "minorities complain a lot because they have it hard" Hahaha I'm sorry, I must forgotten about all those times when I cursed and complained about my wretched ethnicity! There are people in ethnic minority that have it hard, and some that have it easy. This also applies equally to the ethnic majority. However due to the fact that the ethnic majority is a majority there will be more people who have it easier which will be more visible but regardless many people do not. Nevertheless, to make such a generalised comment is incorrect as you created this lovely scenario where the white British person is automatically more successful and sophisticated than the person from an ethnic minority, as if their ethnicity is some huge burden that has and inevitably always will hold them back in life. You seem to find it hard to envisage the idea of a white British middle class family even being friends with a black/Asian etc middle class family that is as successful as them, with "businesses and high education". The problem that I had with your argument is that you seem to associate ethnic minorities with "having it hard" when a white women from an ethnic majority could have had it hard and have the same effect of "someone who complains that will take you back a step".

On the subject of mixed race children, you and your hypothetical wife are not the race, but you must have been able to understand things from her point of view enough to marry and have children? In terms of identity, if the only and most important identity you feel you have in life is through your ethnicity then you haven't really experienced life. There is a lot more to the meaning of one's life than the colour of their skin. It's important, of course to know where you come from etc but does anybody really have the same identity as their child? Even if I'm the same colour as my mother, I am a different person born in a different time and inevitable I am going to experience things that she hasn't. Children aren't going to experience everything that their parents have nor vice versa, so if you cant coach your child as well because they are the different race/colour to you, then you'd only show yourself to be an inadequate parent.

Again with the "your kid will always be the minority" - being from an ethnic minority is not a disadvantage in itself, it's people like yourself make it seem like a disadvantage by being so stubbornly biased against them. So what, your child is the only mixed race child in the room? Does that make them less of a person, less interesting, less rich, are they any different because of the people they are surrounded by? If I were to get a room full of rich mixed race children and put a white rich child in there, wouldn't he be the minority? "Minority status" is not some sort of permanent dirty stain. If I were to move back to my country of origin, I would not be "a minority".

Of course you wouldn't see that many mixed race children in posh independent/grammar schools, there aren't that many mixed race children in comparison to other ethnic groups and of course, it will then be whittled down to those who are smart enough and/or rich enough. It's just a case of statistics, but in all honesty, does it really matter how many people of the same ethnic group are around you? It doesn't guarantee any certain level of pedigree, or personality trait, or wealth, or even just how nice they are as a person. Anyway, the idea of marrying a person due to their wealth and family, rather than out of love, doesn't always work out as love is colourblind but greed is not.

And just to add, the reason you wouldn't know about many wealthy ethnic minorities holding "parties" for their children to socialise might be due to this thing called "cultural differences". While I've been putting all ethnic minorities under one umbrella, each has their own and usually much more clearly defined traditions around courtship when looking for marriage, affluent or not. I know that, at least for the place that I am from, it's a lot more complicated than throwing a load of rich children in a room with your children. First of all, you don't even need to throw a party in the first place, your children have been around surrounded by a group of suitable partners since childhood and adolescence, things like wealth status and having a good education go without saying. Other people I know, have said that while they live in the UK, they know that they are going to go back to their country of origin to look for a suitable partner. So when you think about the reason why ethnic minorities aren't marrying into a ethnic majority a lot, consider the fact that they might not actually want to. You make it sound like by a "white British person, with a 4x4 and a business" marrying "a minority" he's lifting her out of the deepest depth of poverty, as you've envisaged her as bringing nothing at all, no worldly possessions or values or positives to their relationship and that's simply not true.


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right im going to reply to this in my next post properly.

but i am curious.
two questions i'd like you to answer in regards to what i've written.
what do you think my point was?
and what do you think i was trying to achieve?

(sighs) I new people were gonna read that post as a personal attack. i havent even read all of this im just gonna reply to each paragraph cause



i have that attitude towards all things. not just black people dont worry its even. its unfortunate that its disgusting to you. that wasnt my intention. funnily enough though in my post i didnt really mention black people that much. i just mentioned the issues with a minority mixing with a successful native majority. which could of been applicable to races other than black.

pleas show me in the post where i illustrated black people were at the bottom of the totem pole. please also show me where i tried to make black people out to be sub-human.

you havent pointed out any part that you think is wrong enough to challange though. you just seem to not like it and accuse me of having an agenda against black people.



i see. you've claimed i've done a lot and claim im racist but have not highlighted any specific quote and explained why its racist. if theres so many it should be easy to pick one. and if theres one maybe you can just pick that one quote?

again. reference a prejudice quote of mine.

you do realise the irony here? you've accused me of being racist and prejudice but you've just claimed most mixed race people hate the black side of their family. oh and that most mixed race people also apparently want to make their families less black. whos being a know it all know huh?

hang on? my case is quite rare? you mean the case i made that its difficult for parents to relate to their mixed race children? yes i mentioned a minority women because its a thread asking guys about their thoughts on different races of women. my argument would still apply to a black man white women. or a chinese man indian women. doesnt matter. the point still applies.




well you called me racist in the above post so i guess this is you saying you respect me now. oh wait no i have covert racism... great. yea you allready said i was prejudice, but bigot is new. this is kinda rich coming from the girl who just accused the majority of mixed race people of hating black people.



sounds like they see you as a whore tbh. hounding. stopping their cars? what for you to get in? you do realise this isnt treatment to boast about right? its actually very disrespectful. you do... no that... right? same skin colour as kerry washington let me google that. ah... i see. i suspect light skin superiority complex no? light enough to be mix race? explains your attitude towards them. do you actually commonly pass for black givin such a light complexion. i mean kerry washington could pass as like... latino or some mix.

ok but i dont see what any of this has to do with my post. this just seems like you bragging about how pretty you think you are and how lots of men harass you on the street.

just letting you know. classy women rarely get treated by men like that. because the guys don't think they have a chance. plus if you mean classy as in rich? they usually have cars. or chauffeurs. specifically to avoid such unpleasantness with the common rabble.

but im guessing this little boasting session here is from insecurity considering its random out of place intermission.



ok. thats cool.
im guessing that youve mistook my points about the issues of majority+minority or even minority+minority dating as some sort of attack on black people. perhaps you think i was saying they are all poor and cannot be rich like whites or something. which either theres something hidden amongst my writing that i was unaware of or you simply got the wrong end of the stick. anyway. i say guessing cause other wise i dont know why your showing this to me like hahaha evidence of mixed race couples i high society. i never said it couldnt be done i said it was unpopular. also i did some "research" and wiki'd Princess Angela of Liechtenstein and it says "She is the first person of known African origin to marry a member of a reigning European dynasty." so still kinda rare. but i think you've aimed a bit far with royalty there on that one. im sure theres lots more black people in the general aristocracy and general rich upper echelons of society than there is european royalty.



i see. would you mind backing that up with a quote?

cause at the moment your opinion on me as even less legitimate than your opinion on the majority of mixed race people hating their black side and wanting to dilute the blackness out their future progeny.



make up my mind on what? do you not know how to quote?
i never said you were the least attractive women... i think you've mixed me up with someone else and attributed their views to me for some reason.

i see... more of this stuff again. think i've covered enough on that.

NEXT PARAGRAPH! and its a big one so im gonna have to chop it up.



ok now i KNOW your getting me confused with someone else



im guessing your talking about Satoshi Kanazawa the racist LSE professor who got suspended.

yea i agree with you on this one. guess this is continuing with the misquote theme


I'm in no doubt you are conceited from your above posts. but it seems to be a rebound from insecurity.


thats good.



pretty much everyone.
check your privilege <joke btw)


to be fair you've made it quite obvious how much you revel in male attention and you've done quite a bit of boasting. so this bit all seems a bit beauty pageant "if only the world was nicer" insincere type of dialog.



i kinda agree. the word love is derived from the latin for "desire" anyway. so love in its original meaning means desire. which kinda changes all the stigma attached to it.

anyway not sure what was going on here. seems like you misquoted me with other people quite a bit.

While neither the point or the aim of your post concerns me, I'd hazard a guess at that you were trying to provide some vague misguided reasoning and input as to why "affluent" white British people don't usually date people from ethnic minoritie when looking for marriage.

I look forward to it.


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I was not boasting, far from it tbh. I was merely giving you a background information of how I look like. I do not "revel in male attention", I actually dislike it, and it makes me uncomfortable. I was just using my experience to show that "black" women are not viewed as ugly as TSR seems to think. If I GET COVERED UP WITH NO SKIN ON SHOW AND WEAR VERY LOOSE CLOTHING, BUT STILL GET THIS TYPE OF ATTENTION, THEN I GUESS I AM NOT AS UGLY AS YOU SEEM TO THINK I AM. I even get puzzled as to why I get this type of attention, please I do not even court their attention to begin with. I guess this kind of attention is reserved for other "beautiful" races, who are far from black right? It angers you that an "ugly" black girl gets this type of attention. NO IT CANNOT BE, SHE MUST DRESS LIKE A WHORE BECAUSE GUESS WHAT SHE IS BLACK, THEY ALL ARE WHORES, RIGHT?

Wow, calling me a "whore" indirectly. Like I said before, I am a Christian (I am not trying to be sanctimonious) hence I do not wear revealing clothing. Whenever I wear trousers, it always covers my bum.

I have always been conservative from a young age about my body, seeing as it is "the temple of God" 1 Corinthians 3 vs 16.

Thanks very much for further proving my point, your likening me to a whore shows that you see black women as sexual objects, which you mentioned in one of your posts on this thread, I can't be bothered to go through 15 pages to fish it out.

The last time I was oggled like this, I actually wore a blazer, blouse underneath it, and trousers with flat shoes, but still got men looking at me like I was a model or something. DOES A WHORE DRESS LIKE THIS?! DO TELL ME?! MY WHOLE BODY WAS COVERED, WITH NOTHING ON SHOW, EXCEPT MY NECK. I CANNOT REMEMBER WHEN SHOWING ONE'S NECK MADE ONE A WHORE!!

I do pity the "black" woman you will end up with because you think so little of them. You have a superiority complex, which you need to get over, because it won't benefit you in this world, and would just make you bitter and unhappy. Being "caucasian" is just a skin colour mate, it's just melanin, no need to get all worked up about it, like it is some kind of achievement.

No I would not have to say such a thing to a Chinese person they pretty much do it anyway they are smart enough to invest in themselves when China invests in a 3rd world nation they make sure they said their own workers who take their money back home to China you see.

I wish I could see this black separatism that you claim to see personally I don't and that incident of you being ushered to the front of the cue is a pretty small example which reall does not affect society much I don't even think it was worth mentioning.

No you are not depriving black women and I certainly am not giving any money to these largely non black owned hair companies, you black women claim that these hair businesses are largely owned by black businesses which is untrue. I believe in the USA at least its largely owned by the Koreans.

''Approximately 9,800 BEAUTY SUPPLY businesses exist nationwide; but only a little more than 300 are black-owned, Naturallymoi reports.''

''According to the article, Korean-American ENTREPRENEURS control all major components of the beauty supply business. There are four central distributors serving a large portion of the beauty supply stores in the country, all Korean-owned. These distributors only work with other Koreans in order to dominate the market.''

''For almost 50 years, the Korean-American community has dominated the black BEAUTY SUPPLY market by opening large stores, buying out smaller black-owned ones and using the faces of black celebrities on their products and black employees in their stores to grow their businesses in the black community.''

I mean just look at those quotes you can't make this stuff up I am not 100% about the British industry but I doubt its black owned I will look into it and get back to you on that.

However you black females here want to chat like its a non issue like I said you do not care about your community your hair is more important.

Check the link below for the full article


http://www.blackenterprise.com/small-business/koreans-weave-industry-keeping-blacks-out/

Says somebody who's answer was full of generalizations.

No I would not have to say such a thing to a Chinese person they pretty much do it anyway they are smart enough to invest in themselves when China invests in a 3rd world nation they make sure they said their own workers who take their money back home to China you see.

I wish I could see this black separatism that you claim to see personally I don't and that incident of you being ushered to the front of the cue is a pretty small example which reall does not affect society much I don't even think it was worth mentioning.

No you are not depriving black women and I certainly am not giving any money to these largely non black owned hair companies, you black women claim that these hair businesses are largely owned by black businesses which is untrue. I believe in the USA at least its largely owned by the Koreans.

''Approximately 9,800 BEAUTY SUPPLY businesses exist nationwide; but only a little more than 300 are black-owned, Naturallymoi reports.''

''According to the article, Korean-American ENTREPRENEURS control all major components of the beauty supply business. There are four central distributors serving a large portion of the beauty supply stores in the country, all Korean-owned. These distributors only work with other Koreans in order to dominate the market.''

''For almost 50 years, the Korean-American community has dominated the black BEAUTY SUPPLY market by opening large stores, buying out smaller black-owned ones and using the faces of black celebrities on their products and black employees in their stores to grow their businesses in the black community.''

I mean just look at those quotes you can't make this stuff up I am not 100% about the British industry but I doubt its black owned I will look into it and get back to you on that.

However you black females here want to chat like its a non issue like I said you do not care about your community your hair is more important.

Check the link below for the full article


http://www.blackenterprise.com/small-business/koreans-weave-industry-keeping-blacks-out/

Alesha Dixon is mixed race.

What about sticking to the topic?

My opinion of black women, white men relationships is that I don't care. If black women are the least desirable then why does that matter. I do think that social wise we are at the bottom. Women are lower than men and black people are lower than white. But it's what you make of it. One of the richest self made millionaires (maybe billionaire. Not sure) in the world is a black women. She came from a seriously poor background and suffered a lot of abuse. When she was young she would have been considered like any other black girl. The lowest social class. Yet she did something to combat that and has made herself rich. Oprah's only one person but I just want to point out that she would have been considered another "black girl" before she became rich

At the end of the day who cares whether white men don't see you to be attractive. I know a lot of black women and white men are creating relationships for reasons I've already stated. Black women do have a stereotype and I think the media AND we play up to it. Personally I'm a very insecure and shy person. There's a lot of things I dislike about myself (but my skin is definitely not at the top of that list unless in reference to scars and spots).
It may seems like the end of the world but life is what you make it and if you lie your life wondering why white men or men as a whole don't see you as attractive then that's no way too live. Be more confident. Don't play up to stereotypes. Never change your skin colour or hair for anyone. EVER! Please don't bleach your skinv___v

Also stop wearing weaves. They are nasty. Most men of all races hate them.

How will a girl who needs an external source to uplift her ever achieve internal peace?

No I don't know who you are nor have I met you I have read your initial post though and that was what my response was based on. Do ever try and think logically? Do you think I just pulled a random response out of a hat?

I think you are exactly that type of girl you describe based on these white guys comments you probably will change yourself to appeal to them more.

I don't need to read half your answers nor respond to them I respond to the lines that grab my attention.

I am not offended by the post at all I just wonder how the mods let it slip by when half the same posts on this subject based on black female attraction and how people perceive black girls end up banned because a bunch of commentators either assume its a troll or some black girl claims racism. Yet because you are a black girl you can create the same type of thread and pretend its about trying to understand other people.

This type of thread is not nothing new, its quite boring and done before I usually just skip these threads, only reason I commented on this was because this thread was started by a black girl from the same group who would complain if someone else opened such a thread commenting on black girls appearance or behaviour.

You certainly ain't no supremacist however I do think you are self hating.