Going to weight train without creatine?

it's used as a metaphor for steroids as steroid discussion isn't allowed. That is likely what the guy was alluding to.

Seriously?! Why not? It's not illegal last time I checked...

bb.com is a business. They have their reasons. Besides they are illegal in the US.

I always felt creatine had more placebo value than anything

It's not a steroid lol. Not even close.


Can't remember exactly but creatine gets used up inside your muscles while you're doing physical activities. So having more creatine in the muscle makes you able to do stuff longer or life heavier. It's already in your muscles and is created by your body whether you take supplements or not. Taking more creatine just puts more into your body. Lawd some people are so uneducated.

Something like that. You study it at Biology Alevel.

At the end of the day, we both know exactly what Creatine is.

Let's not pretend

Sh** ain't that serious, don't dive into this stuff too much, you make gains just eating and lifting, bodybuilding is the easiest and simplest thing there is, it's not a sport requiring genuine effort like football or something, like I said. Just eat and lift, the supplements effects are hardly significant


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Pretty sure like football it does require physical effort unless you've just been staring at your quiff in the mirror

All it requires is repetitive physical effort, there's no skill, technique or talent involved(maybe genes..), that's what I meant by easiest sport mate. Since it's like this I guess you do have more time to stare at your quiff


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There are huge amounts of talent and technique involved. DYEL?

There are huge amounts of talent and technique involved. DYEL?

Technique?? LOL okay lemme move a weight in a robot like motion with great technique. And I do actually, DYEL?


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You clearly don't or you'd know that snatch/clean and jerk have huge technique elements.

You're probably one of those phaggots who turns curls into a full body movement, half reps bench and doesn't train legs.

I'm talking about bodybuilding dumbass, snatch and clean aren't meant for bb And nope I do calisthenics. With added weight sometimes. Search them up. And talking about I don't train legs, try a pistol squat right now with 15kg in one hand, then we'll conclude who trains legs

lols. I can deadlift 200 for reps. Just because I don't have the ankle flexibility for a pistol doesn't mean I don't train legs.

Besides, you picked a great example of an exercise which requires technique and skill.

Fantastic stuff..

And nope pistol squats aren't for bodybuilders. Can't you see my point? Bodybuilding is just dysfunctionally trained muscles. Powerlifters have my respect though since they are genuinely strong and functional

If you're doing pistol squats as your primary leg movement you have bigger problems than bodybuilding vs powerlifting

A 15kg pistol is not dissimilar to a 30kg squat lol

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Why can't pistol squats be put in a bodybuilding regime? They're a great leg exercise.