Is anyone going to protest for Palestine?! (In London or Birmingham)

That doesn't mean it couldn't exist, and there are legitimate grievances that Palestinians hold. The only thing is, they elect religious totalitarians to rule them, and as such I cannot support any claim to statehood, and in fact support Israeli occupation as a lesser evil.

It's cultural enrichment.

Having read a lot around the conflict of Israel and Palestine, I have not been able to find out why exactly Israel has occupied Palestine. I assume that is because most sources are pro-Palestine. I haven't really formed an opinion on the whole case and whose side to take but on the face of it Israel do seem to be in the wrong at least in most people's eyes. Being objective however, I would like to know what Israel's side of the argument is. It is natural to feel more sympathetic towards the underdogs (Palestine) for being less able to defend themselves but this is irrelevant IF it is Palestine who are in the wrong. I think most people are too quick to form a judgement and let their emotions make irrational decisions for them. That's not to say that I'm taking Israel's (or anyone's) side, but I do think people should spend more time researching both sides of the argument rather than naively accepting what they are presented with. After all, I'm sure Israel have their reasons. They did not just wake up with random hate for Palestine. So what exactly is Israel's argument?

Exactly. Israel itself keeps claiming it's the only democracy in the middle east and boasts about its "democratic" nature. Then you look at their actions and they clearly show they aren't. Isis never claims it's a democracy, it openly says it targets civilians, it openly admits it's extremist, it doesn't attempt to hide the many murders it commits, unlike Israel.

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If you want to protest, you can. Nothing is stopping you, I'm just saying nothing will come from it. If you manage to stop the fighting between Israel and Palestine with your protest then you can quote me later and I'll congratulate you personally.

My point is that you say nothing will come from it, but you're wrong. I've just told you what comes from it

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Cool, you actually care. Don't fool yourself into thinking everybody cares this much or actually does anything other than update their status or walk on a protest.

Unlike many other protestors who are looking forward to hating on some Jews. Not to mention this 'free palestine' thing is a fashion among Muslim youths. Stupid people I know posting all over facebook like they know anthing.

Didn't see them saying anything when Rohingya's were being massacred, or when Ramadan was banned in China, or when Sri Lankan Buddhists burned Muslim owned houses and shops.

Not that this detracts from the pain and suffering of Palestinians, I just find how selectively Muslims care about issues, interesting.

Unless Israel accept that they are being barbaric and stop their bombardment on innocent civilians, then you're right, there never will be peace.

I think you would find that this information is sufficient enough for your pointless arguments:



Now answer me, whose country was it first?

Bull****....nothing like that you (and others) are so gullible.

Who's country was the US? Australia? means nothing. Palestine will never get rid of Israel, and they better accept this.

Bull****....nothing like that you (and others) are so gullible.

Who's country was the US? Australia? means nothing. Palestine will never get rid of Israel, and they better accept this.

Then why not protest for democracy in Palestine and an end to Hamas rule?

Because I think it's more important to keep Israel's Zionist ambitions in check than to force democracy on a people that don't really want it or need it.

Then why not protest for democracy in Palestine and an end to Hamas rule?

Hamas was democratically elected. Nobody is forcing democracy on palestinians. Although I didn't vote for Hamas, it WAS democratically elected. Hence why Israel thinks it's ok to collectively punish people and besiege them

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Does it really achieve anything?

In a word, no.

Actually I knew it does
If you read what I said later on, I actually just made this thread to raise awareness.
Ive tried to make other threads but they always get binned, maybe cause Im quite... Verbal to say the least
Not only that but hopefully, as many people arent aware, it will make more people actually want to educate themselves about it.

"Small change, big difference" Just been watching the water appeal advert on YouTube, was so shocked when he said assalaamualaikum, thought Id misheard him