The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

I think you posted in my thread too.

Youre pro Israel?

I'm assuming you're Jewish youreslf?

What if the residents of England had claimed that land with dodgy reasoning and made several attempts to absorb Scotland into itself?

england have already done that many centuries ago.

jsut so you understand i dont listen to any propaganda, be it israeli or islamic
in fact i dont really pay that much artention to the confilct, apart form the news reports when they come up. i have always wondered why muslims int he uk are so obsessed with this conflict when it really has nothing to do with them. there is for example a conflict gogin on much closer, in europe ( ukraine) whcih i dont beleive you have ever commented on, there are more significant number of casualites than in gaza, such as CAR conflcit, bigger one - off attrocities, like the boko haram and al-shabab attacks, and indeed beiiger cases of kidnapping ( the nigerian school girls).

and yet this thread seems to get a disproportionate amount of attention.
again -g ood exmaple of the power of propaganda

yes im jewish and yes im pro israel are you jewish?

you dont answer my questions because your logic is flawed and you have nothing with clout left to say. Your reasoning is foolish

Via the Acts of Union (1706 for Scotland, 1707 for England). It's a union, not an occupation, hence why it's the "UNITED Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" and not just "England"


But that wasn't good enough for them, they wanted they wanted the Arab state too, and any other parts of Palestine they could get their hands on.

So you believe that Palestine is the holy land?! That needs to belong back in the hands of the Jews so we can have our own state?!

I believe Muslims are a lot closer to the Palestinians than the Ukrainians. Also, the aggression shown by the Israeli is one of arrogance and genuine subjugation and oppression of the Palestinian people for the last 80 odd years.

thats again debatable, if we are gogin into an indepth debate as to where all the borders where ( ive no intention to btw) however modern israel is made up of the result of various attmpts by arab countries to invade israel and subsequently defeats. golan heights etc where all spoils of winning those wars. essentially the arabs wanted to bring it down to a matter of militarily strongest holds the aces - and it turned out israel was the strongest, by far.

So you want me to answer your question, but when I ask for the question you just dodge giving it?
And can you not handle a simple Reductio ad Absurdum?
And if you reject logic as foolish how can you possibly use your computer?

Uthrab Uthrab Tal Habib. Verily the zionists must may for their transgressions and land thieving. And when you ask them (filthy zionists) to not cause mischief in the land, they will say we are peacemakers. Verily the zionists must be put to the sword. Just like Germany had to be denazified, Palestine must be dezionified, zionist blood must flow in the streets of Palestine for there to be liberation from the filth, no compromise no negotiation, slay all zionist filth, it is a cancer on humanity.

What is his/her question? Is it that if Palestinians can live peacefully in Israel, why can't Israelis in the West Bank? If so, I already kind of gave an answer because before coming to a conclusion that "Palestinians are living peacefully in Israel", one must look at the circumstances they're living under which I posted before as well.

scum like you can never be reasoned with. you try to talk of the demise of the nazis and relate it to the demise of the zionists. this is antisematism at its finest*plays ad hominem race card*

but why do you think that - palestine is in an entrielty differnt continent, whereas the urkanians are european like you? you are not ethnically palestinan either, i doubt you have any heritage form there ( if you do youd be the minority of people posting on this thread) if its a matter of religion, again id question the sanity - most muslims in the uk are of asian heritage, and therfore only muslims becuase at some point in histroy the muslims of middle east or perhaps mongols onvaded and defeated your ancestors in war. the jews didnt colonise you, so your dislike for them is illogical.

Since I looked up the original boarders, here they are:

One could go on to argue offensive vs defensive war. They were clearly defensive wars, didn't stop them going on a massive offensive to get that land they always wanted. And to this day I still don't understand quite how the Arabs could **** up so badly

Please, just stop now.

but why do you think that - palestine is in an entrielty differnt continent, whereas the urkanians are european like you? you are not ethnically palestinan either, i doubt you have any heritage form there ( if you do youd be the minority of people posting on this thread) if its a matter of religion, again id question the sanity - most muslims in the uk are of asian heritage, and therfore only muslims becuase at some point in histroy the muslims of middle east or perhaps mongols onvaded and defeated your ancestors in war. the jews didnt colonise you, so your dislike for them is illogical.

the obsession wit the palestine conflcit is complelty illogical- the numbers of casualties pale in comparision to something like conflicts of the past in say, east timor, or rwanda, sierra leone. the only explaination is that islamic propaganda has brainwashed you to think its the most important conflict on the planet.