The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

They only 'expire' if you don't lay a claim to it in that period, make no mistake Palestinians will always lay claim to their rightful land and property. The jews will never get away with this, the Palestinians will never forget nor forgive the jew thieving, not with bombs not with genocide not with time, today's orphans will be tomorrows freedom fighters, The jews must be made to pay for this or they will never learn.

But, given that if a religions doctrine becomes static it will likely lead to the death of that religion, surely the ones having thier loyalty questions should be the ones maintaining the old, archaic, unpopular in modern society doctrines?

As long as the majority of Palestinians hold this view, their situation will not improve. Hatred is not productive. Sometimes you just have to move on. The Jews had their own nakba, and they moved on.

Sadly, you are one of those many idiots who think they know everything but in fact you are just another frog in the well & you have zero logical sense. After reading couple of BS news articles you think that you were there when all major and minor historical events were happening.

SO just because the jews gave up their rights, their property and land and inflicted the same atrocities on Palestinians, the Palestinians should quietly accept it? I mean why stop at land why not follow the jews into the gas chambers, and when they die you can say well move on. How ridiculous.

The objective is to liberate Palestine, from the river to the sea, not to pursue futile worldly goods, the former is what will improve the situation nto the latter which you are inferring.

'If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?'

i dont read 'news articles' to get an understanding of historical events that post just demonstrates your lack of intelligence and knowledge to be able to discuss this topic. its easy to rile up ignorants with a bit of media jargon and rhetoric and stir emotion, but as show in your case most of those are not able to debate any matters with a basis of fact. the only real achievement to note here is that islamists are skilfully able to rile up people to have an uninformed opinion on this matter by somehow convincing them that the need to prevent palestine being governed by jews is an issue universal to all muslims

Israel is one big settlements, just like no one would tolerate a thief taking more than half their house and saying you can live in the other half only, Palestinians will never tolerate the European zionists taking more than half of Palestine.

Israel is one big settlements, just like no one would tolerate a thief taking more than half their house and saying you can live in the other half only, Palestinians will never tolerate the European zionists taking more than half of Palestine.

It is universal to all Muslims, Islam commands the Muslims to act as one Ummah, if you refuse it, what kind of Muslim is that, you won't know because you are a filthy zionist.

No we don;t 'move on' we correct teh zionist wrong, whether it take 50 100 2000 or 20 000 years.

thats a very primitive mindset - in the 8th century it may have been true that to spread doctrine you had to conquer and snatch land, but in modern times its not true. lots of religions have survived anyway not by simply conquering their adherents. by taking a pre-medieval attitude and applying it to modern political affairs, you will simply invite conflict - as is the case in palestine

Yet no street demonstrations. No boycott campaigns.

200,000 dead in Syria, where was 'stop the war coalition' ? nowhere to be seen.

The day Israel starts retaliating to rockets, 'stop the war' coalition suddenly crawl back out from under their rock.




There is no such thing as "disproportion" in conflict. In fact, the whole point of conflict is to inflict a disproportionate amount of force on your enemy to gain victory.

British troops have lost 453 men in Afghanistan. How many Afghans do you think have been killed?

NATO (including British troops) are using Apache attack helicopters, drones, AC-130's against cave-dwelling Taliban with AK47's an RPG's - is that disproportionate?

In response to V2 rockets fired by Germany, the British replied with fire-bombing whole German cities like Dresden, killing tens of thousands. Was that disproportionate?

Parroting the media's use of "disproportion" only leads you to make a fool of yourself.

No other country is accused of "disproportionate" force.

Have you ever heard it mentioned when we went into Iraq? did the BBC say how disproportionate it was that Iraqi militia were being hit with drones?



Oh and Arab conquests happened centuries ago? my dear, they're still ongoing. Ask Africa how they're getting on.

Sudan where the Arab Muslims butchered 250,000 indigenous blacks in Darfur.

There is nothing political in saving fellow muslims from tyranny, whether that is in Syria, Saudi Arabia, Burma or zionist occupied Palestine. .

As we saw from the arab spring Muslims will fight for the liberation of fellow muslims no matter where it is, its the zionist who think the struggle against the filthy zionist occupation is the only struggle, it isn't but boy will we continue the fight as one Ummah no matter how long it takes.

That is the mentality which will keep the Palestinians forever oppressed and at war with Israel.



So why did you mention specifically European Zionists?

Yes, Israel is not a religious state, it is a secular state. That is why I support it. That is why I oppose all current attempts to create a Palestinian state.

I oppose settlement expansion, but the current crisis has nothing to do with it whatsoever.

I think all you have to do is look at the CoE, and most Christian denominations, to see that the claim is true. They're changing their doctrine to keep up with the times.

Or perhaps you will not attempt to prove your non-point not because 'I won't believe you' but because you have nothing logical going for your argument. All you can cling to for assurance is a whimsical gut feeling. I have an interest in many conflicts, and have read extensively of many, and I certainly have not come across what you say you noticed. Why, nobody even on this thread refers to Israel's 'bloodthirstiness' bar me. If you have tangible evidence then by all means bring that up; until you do so, I will dismiss your claim as utterly irrelevant, deliberately misleading hokum.

When he says it's "nothing special" - he's of course downplaying it because he's anti-Israel.

The Iron Dome is extremely sophisticated and very few such systems exist. The Iron Dome is the only system to have been tested to the extent this has and has a higher intercept record than all other systems.

When Israel initially considered producing this system, the Americans told them to forget it as it was too difficult and the results would not be worth it.