The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

Please can we establish that Israel target civilians before further discussion please. Thank you.


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I didn't say they weren't happy with it, just that they weren't consulted in the drafting of the ceasefire (and thus the ceasefire wasn't worth the paper it was written on).

http://www.kare11.com/video/3675982440001/1/Gaza-Spokesman-says-Hamas-was-not-consulted-on-failed-truce

There are other sources and it's been widely reported.

Just to make it clear, I am not someone who thinks that tax is theft etc, I just picked that example because of your username

To be honest I doubt calling them terrorist makes them sound worse than using words like militant. I think a lot of people actually slightly think that anyone described as a "terrorist" by a Western power (not that people should think of Israel as being part of the West - even though they do), must be an innocent freedom-fighter

My username constantly confuses people - I maybe should have used the name AnarchistIC instead. My ideal system wouldn't have taxes or government - just a level playing field brought about by social ownership of the means of production and the removal of any unjustifiable hierarchy.

Israel, geographically speaking, obviously isn't part of the West but they're very much linked to and allied with western governments. For example, the majority of the US aid budget goes to Israel despite the fact it's a relatively rich country.

I disagree - I think "terrorist" is a term used by media and government, almost exclusively, to refer to Islamic Extremism. Lee Rigby's murderers are known (correctly, don't get me wrong) as terrorists but the word isn't used about David Copeland (in fact I'd be surprised if you've even heard of him), a white nationalist who killed people in London with nail bombs. I suppose some people might have a bit of sympathy for terrorists but it's "supposed" to be used exclusively about our main enemies. At the moment, it's extremist Muslims and before that it was the Irish.

Okay

But civilians = hamas militants

I think the real question is, why is the IDF never labelled a terrorist force?

Right and you appear to of just regurgitated stuff you have read here and there.

Israel has every right to protect its nation from terrorists.

It seemed as if it was ended by mutual agreement, no?

Egyptian-brokered ceasefire:

Accepted by Israel
Backed by the Arab league
Backed by Ban Ki Moon at the UN
Backed by the Palestinian authority

Rejected by Hamas.

Because despite the bigoted opinion of some about Israel, around 20 times more people have died in neighbouring Syria in 3 years, as have died on both sides of Israel/Pal combined in 47 years.

Doubting that.

But hey, terrorists and their sympathizers(such as yourself ) have your moments I guess.




Hes some delusional Islamaphobe lol. Wouldn't expect much more from him.

Hamas weren't consulted in the drafting on the ceasefire.

Are Israel going to open their nuclear plants to IAEA inspection and ratify the NPT any time soon?


That doesn't answer the question at all.

Mentioning a worse conflict does not excuse Israel of its war crimes or it breaking international law.

Incorrect. I condemn Hamas and believe they should not fire rockets on Israeli towns. That's common sense.

However there are hundreds of dead civilians as the result of Israeli rocket fire. That is the bottom line and to attempt to justify the extent of the carnage is ridiculous and shameful.

When you invest $15 billion dollars in your defence forces and still can't target a rag tag bunch of terrorists without blowing up kids playing on a beach the international community ought to ask very serious questions.

Hamas weren't consulted in the drafting on the ceasefire.
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If you can find a source other than CNN proving that Israel fired first I'll give you £20

Because by definition being a state excludes something from being a terrorist

Much of what israel has done is not breaking international war. Striking against military targets is completely legal regardless of how many civilians are near it.