The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

There is much evidence to believe that the Israeli army targets civilians. No wonder, as it constitutes predominantly of neo-nationalist fascists.

There is no evidence at all of Hamas 'hiding among populace to provoke this kind of response'; you Zionists just keep parroting this over and over, but never provide substantial proof for this claim. It is null.

How many countries were built on the skulls of dead Palestinians? How many countries are currently occupying land unlawfully on only religious grounds, demolishing homes to build new ones to fill them with foreigners who have no claim to the land whatsoever, arresting people and imprisoning them for no reason except a paranoia on their own part? How many people are oppressing their neighbouring country folk every day of the year? How many countries are operating a blockade on one the most densely populated areas of the earth, disallowing for betterment of livelihood for the millions of people living there, in addition to sporadically going crazy there by bombing the life out of the people of that area?
'Hamas intends to wipe out Israel' - do you have proof for that, or are you simply conveying what you lapped up from the Zionist hasbara? Hamas has made Hamas's intentions clear, and Hamas's immediate intentions are certainly not to wipe out Israel.
That said, if Hamas is a legitimate target simply because they do not believe in Israel's right to exist, then I too am a lawful target, because I do not believe that Israel has the right to plonk itself right smack on top of land stolen illegally and immorally from its previous owners.

The nations surrounding Israel today are far from hostile to it. Israel is NOT the victim, and never was. Israel/Zionism means to exploit the Jews' oppression for its own worldly, distasteful good.
Israel is the oppressor, the coloniser, the murderer.

I'm not "justifying" the actions of the Israelis, I am giving background to it and telling you why they are doing it.

Going by your logic, all wars are immoral, since they involve killing people and surely you would not wish to condone death.

reports that large parts of Gaza are covered in white phosphorus gas, war crimes yo

Why did Israel bomb a hospital? Were there weapons in the hospital or were there people being treated for wounds sustained from consistent airstrikes in civilian regions? I wonder...

Israel's claim of only targeting militant using pinpoint methods are a farce, they have a record so far of 70%+ of those killed in the last few weeks confirmed as being civilians.

That's for a whole other argument. I'm simply asking why, when Israel shell civilians in their masses, it is the right to defend themselves but Hamas sending home-made rockets is regarded as a threat?

Also I take issue with your last point, and it is not Hamas being blamed, it is civilians. Regardless of whether Hamas were right or not why should Israel be allowed to blob neighbourhoods killing hundreds to punish an organisation whom statistically a fair population may not be empathetic to, with the shillings then driving those people to the side of Hamas as heroes?

By Hamas health Ministry figures

They wouldn't lie.....you know....like they did last time? when the UN compiled a report and then the author distanced himself from it when he found out that in a shocking twist of events, an internationally proscribed terrorist group had lied to him about casualty figures.

Since when was the UN the Hamas Health Ministry?

Hello, I am an Arab currently living in the occupied territory of Beit Hanina in Jerusalem. There are too many statements for me to reply to them all. If anyone would like to know what has been going on, I will gladly reply. Unlike the propagandist you hear on TV, I actually understand Arab and Israeli intentions, and will happily explain the truth to the best of my ability.

There is nothing more to be said other than to reiterate that you condone the collective punishment of the Gazans but not the Israeli's.

Double standards and typical hypocrisy from you again...

That's where the UN are getting their figures. They never learn.

Same as with Hezbollah. Only several months later did they admit an extra 500 Hezbollah casualties on top of the 56 they declared or something

Hamas controls everything in Gaza. There are victims they want the UN representatives to see, and 'victims' they don't.

Which then gives a false impression to the UN of a higher proportion of civilians killed.

By Hamas health Ministry figures

They wouldn't lie.....you know....like they did last time? when the UN compiled a report and then the author distanced himself from it when he found out that in a shocking twist of events, an internationally proscribed terrorist group had lied to him about casualty figures.

I know that Israel isn't particularly hot on international law, and you aren't too hot on logic, but given current civilian fatality estimates, in military terms it's no where near 20:1. And then in terms of international relations, the high civilian rates are already proving suicidal.

Have you ever considered that, when shooting a target surrounded by civilians with few or no militants, that there will be a large number of civilian deaths rather than believing anything the IDF tell you to believe? You're clearly the propaganda officer's wet dream.

I didn't realise many "terrorist" groups had a Health Ministry that had enough influence to coerce reporters, journalists, hospitals, morgues as well as UN representatives

Legitimate military targets according to international law.

Last I checked hospitals and non-militirised residential areas aren't legitimate targets.