The 2.1 requirement is a joke

A lot of people in my class had very good A levels. What a lot of people don't seem to understand is sometimes people choose to go to a certain uni despite its rankings because they simply just want to. Not because they're too dumb or whatever. It's a stupid mentality and it's high time people get over their superiority complex. So bloody what if they have 400 UCAS points? If they have a 2.2 it still means **** all, unless they can prove mitigating circumstances to potential employers. Hell in ten years A levels wouldn't even matter when applying for a job.





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I got a C in AL IT, but a 2.1 in CS.

Are you trying to tell me that AL IT is harder than a CS degree?

It is true though how can a course accepting grades of A*AA not have like a 99% 1st rate and you can say the opposite for courses accepting low amounts of UCAS points for 2 A Levels(how can it have anything above 1% 1st rate)-there is some possibility for outliers students who really struggle at university/don't do the work despite being clever and vice versa which shouldn't account for more than 1%.

The fact that generally grades are reasonably consistent between universities and there aren't massive pass rates at the best unis and massive fail rates at the worst universities, despite their being a massive difference in the ability of the students admitted to their courses shows that their course can't be close to the same difficulty-I don't think there is any real room for argument.The fact that some employers don't do their research and can't grasp basic logic is worrying.

I got a C in AL IT, but a 2.1 in CS.

Are you trying to tell me that AL IT is harder than a CS degree?

Well with economics, your little brother got C's and is likely to get a 2:1 from birmingham city university. I would perhaps say so, most places specify an A-level requirement to even be considered. Just the simple fact he hasn't got a decent set, he can't fulfil his dreams of working for the chancellor of the exchequer. Economic is not a doss, but from "BCU" it is.

They said the same thing 10 years ago, A-Levels are still the benchmark, most employers turn too! Before that it was O-levels, so the fact is they aren't going anywhere and its becoming ever so important to have a decent set as so many employers won't touch you with out a good set.

A 2:1 is about the average grade for degree and a C is just below average at A-Level so it seems reasonable presuming you went to an average university.There are always outliers/anomalies as students transition between A-Levels and University explaining those students who easily passed A-Level yet failed University but not to the extent of the large number that don't get a 1st at top universities despite getting near perfect grades anomalies can't fully account for it and top universities are starting to ask for A Level UMS, which as previously posted is strongly correlated to degree performance.

The students at lower ranked universities got lower grades at A-Level on average compared to the higher ranked ones so are dumber so its not that strange to me that they found it hard.""If you try to compare someone's A-level grades with their degree outcomes you get pretty poor correlation. But if you compare A-level UMS (uniform mark scheme) marks with degree outcomes you get very good correlation." so its important to take into account marks but at the top universities marks are discriminated against and they only give out offers to people with good UMS so they are cleverer.Source:http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6065632

A 2:1 is about the average grade for degree and a C is just below average at A-Level so it seems reasonable presuming you went to an average university.There are always outliers/anomalies as students transition between A-Levels and University explaining those students who easily passed A-Level yet failed University but not to the extent of the large number that don't get a 1st at top universities despite getting near perfect grades anomalies can't fully account for it and top universities are starting to ask for A Level UMS, which as previously posted is strongly correlated to degree performance.

Yeah, a **** bench mark.

The fact that you were able to get good ALs after several resits goes to show that it is more about how you are taught and exam technique rather then innate intelligence. And the odds of achieving the best grades are biased towards those that have access to the best teaching - I.e money.

Plus what you do for ALs often has no relevance to the job you want. Using AL IT as an example, it is too basic for the work I do. My degree is much more relevant.

I'm looking through graduate roles and a bunch of them require a 2.1 and wont even let you apply without one. What makes this so bad is that they often don't specify what you need a 2.1 in, just any degree.

I got a 2.2 in MORSE at Warwick. I looked at a graduate role for Fujitsu- 2.1 degree and 240 UCAS points from 3 A-Levels. I have 400 UCAS points from 3 A-Levels.

Why is the system so broken? I'm not going to pretend like I performed well at Uni, but don't mock me with these ridiculously low A-Level requirements and then say 2.1 in ANYTHING.

Not everyone gets 2.1 though. The OP didn't get it did he? Same with my course, many didn't. CS isn't a walk in the park mate.

In STEM subjects, you will find that getting a 2.1 is harder because the drop out rate is higher.

Yes I didn't go to a top 10 uni, but there is actually nothing stopping me from doing a masters at one if I really wanted too. And here is the thing if I did do one, and got a good mark , I will still be barred from some grad schemes due to ALs.

You should understand that A-levels are not really representative of someone's ability, many people flop A-levels for various reasons and do well at university and similarly lots of people pass with aswome grades at A-level but do crap at university.

Also "best" and "worst" are subjective, it depends on a number of factors as to what you're rating them for. Just because someone in a "low" ranked university gets a 2:1 or a first doesn't mean they aren't competent for a job compared to a so called RG graduate who studied the same course. Employers have many barriers in which they test the competency of a candidate such as 2 or so interviews or online tests in order to single out the best candidates for the job.

I find your level of snobbery disgusting, perhaps you will realise how stupid that ideology is once you're at university and start applying for jobs yourself. It's not just about education.

Not at all I spent most my days at school getting kicked out,lol. It shows im willing to use physical intervention to get what i want. Not scared of conflict or a bit of violence. Getting a good A-Level IT grade will get you on a decent A-Level scheme with an IT company and a reasonable salary with a degree in 5 years in computer science guaranteed.

Not at all I spent most my days at school getting kicked out,lol. It shows im willing to use physical intervention to get what i want. Not scared of conflict or a bit of violence. Getting a good A-Level IT grade will get you on a decent A-Level scheme with an IT company and a reasonable salary with a degree in 5 years in computer science guaranteed.

I have nothing to prove by retaking AL IT. It is a waste of time.

I am working as a IT professional, you might not think much of my work but we have started a trend - competitors are now copying the product we have created. They feel threatened.

If you think , ALs defines intelligence, and general business aptitude in a commercial environment you are gravely mistaken, and by hr filtering people out so crudely means they may not always get the best people for that role.

Depends the higher up you get the less they would look at A-Levels and more specialist you become. At the same time when you get to a certain age you don't need grad scheme. But at the same time people frown upon companies they have never heard of, because the likelihood the person employing you isn't even a specialist in that industry, just a paper pusher.

lol

That's crazy. Why doesn't everyone just take A-level ICT and then p**s their way onto the CS career path? Mystifying.