The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

Nice strawman. That has nothing to do with his argument in the slightest, which was that the criticism of Israel for using disproportionate force is silly, as if they should simply accept more casualties themselves for the sake of turning it into some sort of gentlemen's game. It's not against international law to be really good at waging war.

I just find it sad tbh that despite the statistics, despite seeing Israeli brutality, despite seeing the horrific scenes in Gaza, despite having a somewhat decent historical understanding of the issue, people will STILL support a disgusting occupation. Just goes to show how many morally bankrupt people are on TSR

Edit: Obviously Gaza.

It is silly because they have no right over that land at all and consequently can't use any force let alone excessive. I don't think you comprehend the situation at all, it's not something you can misconstrue when that defies historical realities.

Clearly your bias in support of Israel is blinding you so let give you a simple analogy. What if I came into your house and attempted to steal your furniture and everything you own—you catch me in the act and attack me with the nearest thing (so as to remove me from your house) and I run to the kitchen, grab a knife and essentially 'defend' myself. It's not really against any criminal law for me to defend myself either but will my argument hold up in court? No.

It is pretty clear to anyone that a lot of news outlets (especially BBC) are strongly biased towards Israel.

The anger and hate the Israeli's bring upon themselves is incredible:

In my opinion the following should be considered:

There are 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world or 23% of the World's population.

There's are 14-15 million jews in the world and are less than 0.1% of the world's population.

It's easy to hate the minority, especially when they stand up for themselves against the majority. This is the nature of human struggle.

If you can't view a situation objectively, reason and come to a reasonable conclusion about the current situation presented by a lot of the present anti-zionist media. You're probably not that smart.

Remember who owns the majority of the World's Wealth
- after a History's worth of persecution
- relative to their population (0.1%) (jesus christ.)

Do you see Rabbi's with Suicide vests walking into ASDA with the intention of inflicting harm? No. The truth is this is not within the nature of their religion and to think of Israel as a parable to Nazi Germany or otherwise is quite-frankly pathetic.

The fact is, and most of you won't be able to understand this, having been brainwashed with anti-logic conditioning.

Jews contribute the most to society and are the most peaceful nation when they are not being bombarded with religions that wish to crucify them. It's the survival of Israel against the world and nothing more. Would you rather they voluntarily lay down their lives and be slaughtered like sheep for no other purpose then to make the fundamentalist -terrorist middle east feel better about themselves?

This is probably going to sound a bit controversial, but Hey-ho. The fact remains, the majority of countries and it's civilian populations have nothing going for them. Keep in mind who gives the most contributions to the world, perhaps even google it.

Just want to do a poll since this is the hottest topic as of right now.

My stance:

Spot on.

No, I perfectly comprehend the situation, I simply, God forbid, have a differing opinion to you. The UN charter authorises foreign military intervention in the case of self-defence- meaning Israel is well within it's rights to use force to stop and prevent Hamas rocket attacks.

Bull**** analogy. If you want to talk about international law then lets talk about international law. If you want to talk English criminal law then lets talk about English criminal law. Comprehend the situation yourself before accusing others of not being able to.
Anyway, the current conflict started after Hamas murdered three Israelis, and then in the aftermath of that began firing rockets into Israel.

I am absolutely disgusted at the amount of pro Israel threads here. You don't have to be muslim to support palestine just human

Not to mention being killed for collecting sticks upon the Sabbath, or weaving the wrong kind of clothes.

Israel.

Unless we expect Israel to just put up with Hamas firing rockets at their civilians, we cannot expect them to do nothing. And what they have done is made more effort to avoid civilian deaths than any other belligerent in history. There would be far fewer civilian deaths if Hamas didn't treat them like chaff. They cower behind women and children knowing the Israelis will either avert their fire or grant them a propaganda victory. So Israel are caught between a rock and a hard place, but they know their first duty is to protect their people. As the nation which bombed Dresden, we cannot really speak from any moral high-ground.

Or maybe all the Jews should just go 'home', right?