The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

European immigrants have not left the land they stole from the Native Americans. Instead, they had kids and their descendants continue to live on the land.

Muslim conquerors have not left Egypt, nor Syria, nor India, nor Persia. Instead, they had kids and their descendants continue to live on the land.

Instead of hating Jews, why not seek peace with them and show them how to be kind and loving? Jews have for centuries experienced persecution and hatred against them from many groups of people, sad to say. They are trying to survive now. There is only 1 Jewish state: Israel. There are many Muslim-dominated states, ironically surrounding Israel. Much of those Muslim-dominated states were conquered by Muslims long time ago, including Syria, Palestine and Iraq.

The following are accounts of Muslim invasions of these areas:
http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/islam08.htm

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/293631/Iraq/22883/The-Arab-conquest-and-the-early-Islamic-period


Do you think the Muslim conquests are ok, since they are Muslim? If they were Jewish instead of Muslim, would you have an issue with them? Just curious.

My heart breaks for each person and their loved ones who mourn them.

May God comfort their loved ones, heal those who are injured, and set them free from hatred through the love of Jesus Christ/Yeshua/Isa, the Jewish Messiah who is also the king of the whole world, who will return someday. May God grant His peace and love to the innocent who have died, and convict people who are alive on both sides: Palestinian and Israeli, to not hate and kill each other no matter their nationality or beliefs, but rather love and respect each other, despite differences in nationality and beliefs.

I'm sure the dead appreciate your efforts to pray on behalf of them but here's a thought:

Maybe your prayers would be better served praying for the people who are alive and are inflicting on others more of the same, eh?

If you want to discuss native americans europeans Persians we can do that on a separate thread. I will not let your zionist propaganda to derail the issue at hand succeed.

'May God ... convict people who are alive on both sides: Palestinian and Israeli, to not hate and kill each other no matter their nationality or beliefs, but rather love and respect each other, despite differences in nationality and beliefs.'

You missed out the bit that they are fighting over (i.e: the land)...

You missed out the bit that they are fighting over (i.e: the land)...

Despite launching a war on the new state of Israel declared by the UN?

In my opinion the following should be considered:

There are 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world or 23% of the World's population.

There's are 14-15 million jews in the world and are less than 0.1% of the world's population.

It's easy to hate the minority, especially when they stand up for themselves against the majority. This is the nature of human struggle.

If you can't view a situation objectively, reason and come to a reasonable conclusion about the current situation presented by a lot of the present anti-zionist media. You're probably not that smart.

Remember who owns the majority of the World's Wealth
- after a History's worth of persecution
- relative to their population (0.1%) (jesus christ.)

Do you see Rabbi's with Suicide vests walking into ASDA with the intention of inflicting harm? No. The truth is this is not within the nature of their religion and to think of Israel as a parable to Nazi Germany or otherwise is quite-frankly pathetic.

The fact is, and most of you won't be able to understand this, having been brainwashed with anti-logic conditioning.

Jews contribute the most to society and are the most peaceful nation when they are not being bombarded with religions that wish to crucify them. It's the survival of Israel against the world and nothing more. Would you rather they voluntarily lay down their lives and be slaughtered like sheep for no other purpose then to make the fundamentalist -terrorist middle east feel better about themselves?

This is probably going to sound a bit controversial, but Hey-ho. The fact remains, the majority of countries and it's civilian populations have nothing going for them. Keep in mind who gives the most contributions to the world, perhaps even google it.

In my opinion the following should be considered:

There are 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world or 23% of the World's population.

There's are 14-15 million jews in the world and are less than 0.1% of the world's population.

It's easy to hate the minority, especially when they stand up for themselves against the majority. This is the nature of human struggle.

If you can't view a situation objectively, reason and come to a reasonable conclusion about the current situation presented by a lot of the present anti-zionist media. You're probably not that smart.

Remember who owns the majority of the World's Wealth
- after a History's worth of persecution
- relative to their population (0.1%) (jesus christ.)

Do you see Rabbi's with Suicide vests walking into ASDA with the intention of inflicting harm? No. The truth is this is not within the nature of their religion and to think of Israel as a parable to Nazi Germany or otherwise is quite-frankly pathetic.

The fact is, and most of you won't be able to understand this, having been brainwashed with anti-logic conditioning.

Jews contribute the most to society and are the most peaceful nation when they are not being bombarded with religions that wish to crucify them. It's the survival of Israel against the world and nothing more. Would you rather they voluntarily lay down their lives and be slaughtered like sheep for no other purpose then to make the fundamentalist -terrorist middle east feel better about themselves?

This is probably going to sound a bit controversial, but Hey-ho. The fact remains, the majority of countries and it's civilian populations have nothing going for them. Keep in mind who gives the most contributions to the world, perhaps even google it.

i am jewish and i appreciate this post, so thankyou!

One could include that is included in nationality, if Israelis didn't exist then nor would Israel, ie the land they have issue with.

So that being hamas using civilians as meat shields then?

Instead of fighting, they can share the land. Nowadays, the Native Americans and European-Americans share the land of the USA. Why can't the Jews and Arabs do the same? Does Islam not allow that?

Arabs invaded Palestine long ago, and that has affected the present:
(I boldened some in the article below.)

'Abū Bakr, therefore, summoned the faithful to a holy war (jihad) and quickly amassed a large army. He dispatched three detachments of about 3,000 (later increased to about 7,500) men each to start operations in southern and southeastern Syria. He died, however, before he could witness the results of these undertakings. The conquests he started were carried on by his successor, the caliph ʿUmar I (634–644).The first battle took place at Wadi Al-ʿArabah, south of the Dead Sea. The Byzantine defenders were defeated and retreated toward Gaza but were overtaken and almost annihilated. In other places, however, the natural advantages of the defenders were more effective, and the invaders were hard-pressed. Khālid ibn al-Walīd, then operating in southern Iraq, was ordered to the aid of his fellow Arab generals on the Syrian front, and the combined forces won a bloody victory on July 30, 634, at a place in southern Palestine that the sources ...'
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/439645/Palestine/45060/From-the-Arab-conquest-to-1900

What's going on now involves what happened in the past: both the past of the Jewish people who lived in the land of Israel during Jesus (Isa/Yeshua)'s time, and the more recent past of the Muslim invasion of Palestine.

This says more about the UN's relationship with Israel than about Israel itself.

Good point. Interestingly and sadly, the Jewish people (descendants of Israel- Jacob, son of Isaac son of Abraham) have been persecuted for centuries and have been almost wiped into extinction numerous times. One of the times that is most intriguing to me is during Esther's time. The holocaust is the most dreadful, I think. One of my heroes is Corrie ten Boom. She hid Jewish people from the Nazis. For that, she and her family were thrown in prison (where her elderly father died), then in a concentration camp (where her sister died). Miraculously, she was released and spent the rest of her days teaching love and forgiveness. Through God's help, she forgave the Nazis for all that they had done to her, and for the deaths for beloved father and sister.

The Jewish people needed their own homeland. I wish the Arabs living in Palestine had embraced these descendants of Abraham (Aren't Arabs descendants of Abraham too... distant cousins to the Jews through Abraham?) Instead, they fought against them. The Grand Mufti was even an ally of Hitler.

What is needed is not killing, no rockets, tanks, missiles, either on the Palestinian or Israeli side. What is needed is respect and the ability to live in peace with each other.