'Straight white guy festival' causes controversy

Haha well that's how it's been. We've (I am a straight white guy) pretty much run the world for our benefit since civilisation began.

I'm confused, why would a section of society being persecuted against mean that they should have a festival? I don't get it. So say gay people used to be treated awfully, why would they now have a festival for it?

I suppose 10-18 million Europeans weren't enslaved during the Arab slave trade, then.

Because they have faced a lot of inequality, hate, discrimination, etc, People from minorities may be made to feel ashamed of who they are, so they hold festivals to show that they are actually proud and are a solid community. It's the same reason there's Black History Month and no "white history month"

If i said i was proud to be white, how would society make me feel?

If you had any grasp of history at all, you would understand just what a completely absurd and outrageous statement this is.

Couple of points, the European expansionist phase of the last few centuries happened because of the massive technological advances they created through the industrial revolution. But, before then, white people certainly did not rule the world. For one, the greatest imperialists of the last 1000 years were not even white, but brown. Ghengis Khan for example had the biggest land empire in history and the Muslims conquered much of ancient classical world for themselves. Including parts of Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests


The idea that white people have always been supreme is not only false, but also racist. Against both white and non-white people.

Saying you're 'proud to be white' might get you some hostility, people calling you racist, or thinking you're part of the EDL, but that doesn't equate to whole groups of minorities who face discrimination every day and the struggles that come along with it.

But we don't need to have awards for people of different races. It's divisive

White and non-white men, which is closer to my original point. And in recent centuries there has been a shift towards white guys persecuting everyone else.

Well for a start, that figure was plucked from Wikipedia, and Africans were enslaved during the Arab Slave Trade too.

Also nobody actually knows the exact figures, and those are estimates for slaves over, quite literally, a thousand years.

Not trivialising the Arab Slave Trade, but it seems to me to be reflective of the kind of patriarchal dominance which I am talking about.

So if people celebrate because they have been persecuted in the past and are longer persecuted. Can the straight white men celebrate because they have not been persecuted?

So if people celebrate because they have been persecuted in the past and are longer persecuted. Can the straight white men celebrate because they have not been persecuted?

Except, straight white men were the most persecuted people of the 20th century, with well over hundred million of them being slaughtered by imperialistic and marxist governments.

With all the hatred directed at straight white males by the politically correct power structure, it was only a matter of time until people started rebelling against it. This doesn't sound real though. Sounds like a satire.

You are correct. I would face discrimination and hostility simply for stating that i am proud of who i am.

Can you not see how oppressive this is?

You go on about discrimination, but where is the discrimination which is more fundamental than making a person feel ashamed of who they are?

I'm aware that the Arab slave trade involved all kinds of races, I'm just saying that this narrative that white people have never had any worries and all the privileged people across history have been white is incorrect.

(Also, I don't see your point over the length of time the Arab slave trade went on. You seemed to think that the hundreds of years black people were enslaved showed the activity to be worse, rather than excusing it.)

You are correct. I would face discrimination and hostility simply for stating that i am proud of who i am.

Can you not see how oppressive this is?

You go on about discrimination, but where is the discrimination which is more fundamental than making a person feel ashamed of who they are?

No, there was a brief time ( historically speaking )when European states had the upper hand, because of technological advancement, but that time is coming to an end.

Look around the world today. Look at all the tyrants, wars and persecutions. how can you say that its white people causing all of these things? Are white people responsible for the persecution of Christians in Africa and the Middle East for example?