Is modern culture destroying moral values ?

kids stabbing each others etc....

Modern lifestyle ( drinking, smoking, taking weed) has had an adverse affect on human behaviour in my opinion.

Our sires' age was worse than our grandsires'. We, their sons, are more
worthless than they; so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more
corrupt.

Yes each generations is getting worst.

Yes, modern culture is destroying moral values and any semblance of a functioning society. Modernity shows that change is not always better and new values are not necessarily superior to the old ones. As OP said, single-parenthood is epidemic, drug and alcohol use is unprecedented, there is absolutely no respect for authority and what's happening is a complete meltdown of moral values.

People try to show that modern society is more tolerant than it used to be, but again, this isn't true - the witch hunt is still going strong, it's just that the victims are now the oppressors and the oppressors are now the victims. People show, how we've become tolerant of sexual minorities, yet do not mention how intolerant we've become of those who do not agree with liberal sexual values. Liberals watch with glee as conservatives are vilified and demonized as backwards and supposedly bigoted. There is immense ideological pressure to agree with modern liberal values and any sort of dissent is classified as xenophobia, racism, homophobia, bigotry or whatever.

Drug and alcohol use is unprecedented. There is nothing more disgusting to see a drunk girl - a picture that would have been unimaginable in more refined past eras. Binge drinking was a phenomena associated with the underclass, to whom drunkenness was the only escape from poverty - yet now, binge drinking is no the de facto recreation of everybody, both the poor, the middle and the rich. These days, people will give you strange looks if you do not dull your senses with alcohol and weed.

Britain was very active in selling opium to China grown in India and precipitated the opium wars when China tried to stop the trade because some many people became addicts and so much money had left China.

Families have completely been disintegrated. Single-parenthood is epidemic and the government is doing all it can to damage the traditional family even more, by rewarding sexual indulgence and by perverting the marital institution by legalizing gay marriage - this sends the implicit message that marriage exists only for the satisfaction of your carnal desires, not for unity, growth and sustainability or bonds deeper than mere sexual desire. The complete absence of any sort of sexual morality has lead to a major increase of STD-s, illegitimate children, broken families and has facilitated a culture completely obsessed with instant gratification.

Deviant behavior and poor lifestyle choices are not only encouraged by the current system, but actually rewarded. Practice has shown that if you have a stable relationship with a child on the way and you need larger housing - then the local council will send you right to the bottom of the list. However, if you are a single mother who has 5 different children with 5 different men - the the local council will reward you with a mansion. The implicit message is clear - live a carefree life full of sexual indulgence and irresponsibility and you'll be rewarded with free money in the form of benefits and large housing, complements of the tax payer.

Educational standards have also largely decreased. We spend more on education than ever before and the results are horrifying. With ever decreasing standards, this problem will become even more prevalent.

All this is topped with low fertility where we have to bring in third world immigrants who would have children for us. The average white european is more likely to not have children, more likely to divorce, more likely to abort their pregnancies and more likely to have less children than the third world immigrant counterparts. This is the result of rapid individualism, where children are seen as an impediment to personal happiness rather than something intrinsically valuable of its own.

Modern culture is destroying Europe. Darwinian selection, however, is punishing us accordingly - the conservatives and the religious will simply outbreed the decadent liberals and that will be the end of it. The future looks grim and Eurabia is on the horizon.

You claimed that single parenthood was not on the rise and that families are not being disintegrated. This is incorrect.

They are prioritised. If you have children you jump to the top of the social housing queue.

There isn't much to respond here and you could have saved your time by simply quoting my entire post and disagreeing with it than quoting in in part and disagreeing in part.

Fact of the matter is that i'm not going to waste my time digging up studies and referencing data for some guy on the internet.

While I probably exaggerated some of it, it's equally clear that you're deluded if you think my post is completely wrong.

All you have to do is go into poverty zones or to the streets at friday nights to see our enlightened civilization.

They were saying this in the 1500s

Then why the hell are you in a debate thread if you aren't willing to back up your arguments?

I live in the middle of one half the year around. I also spend a fair amount of time working with these people you're busily dehumanising, and I've noticed that they're mostly wonderful, friendly people.

Longer than that, actually. “Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.” - Socrates, some time in the 5th century BC.

Reckon cave men were saying it?

I'm simply giving a personal account. This has been my experience and this is what I've come to know, especially when asking the elderly to compare how life used to be and how it is now. It's from the books I've read and other contemporary social commentary's I've had the pleasure of reading. Keep in mind, I'm not talking about technology and convenience, I'm talking about the moral degeneracy that plagues us.

Sourcing on an online forum is pointless, because these aren't academic articles that need thorough citation. You can find a study/article to support anything. Even if I do cite my sources, I would also have to read it and make sure that it's solid. This takes an enormous amount of time that no reasonable person can spend on an online student forum. You standard of acceptable argumentation is unrealistic and is a convenient way to dismiss opposing views and interpretations of modernity.

If I do cite my sources, spend hours on it, what's gonna happen is that you'll dismiss it with some cliche critique, such as ''Sample size is too small'', ''study was done by people on the right, so not trustworthy'' etc. It simply isn't worth the time.

So you expect others to source every single one of their claims, whereas you can happily resort to personal anecdotes? Give me a break.

If you have a problem with my post, then at best you can say that my post is untrustworthy, since I haven't linked every one of my sentences and letters with studies and reports. Yet you didn't say that, you actively disagreed and took the opposite stance - and you did so without substance, without sourcing anything yourself.

No I haven't. I've dismissed your claims - without evidence - because they were made without evidence.

Also, this constant demand for "evidence" every time someone expresses an opinion on here is ridiculous. This is not a journal, this is an informal debating forum and if you disagree with my opinion then state why mine is wrong and present your own opinion. All newspaper opinion articles in papers ranging from the Guardian to the Sun to the Times to the Telegraph contain unsubstantiated opinion, stop demanding evidence for people's opinions, it's totally impractical and serves no purpose other than to shut down debate. If you want opinions backed by evidence then go read a social science journal. This isn't one.

I'm simply giving a personal account. This has been my experience and this is what I've come to know, especially when asking the elderly to compare how life used to be and how it is now. It's from the books I've read and other contemporary social commentary's I've had the pleasure of reading. Keep in mind, I'm not talking about technology and convenience, I'm talking about the moral degeneracy that plagues us.

Sourcing on an online forum is pointless, because these aren't academic articles that need thorough citation. You can find a study/article to support anything. Even if I do cite my sources, I would also have to read it and make sure that it's solid. This takes an enormous amount of time that no reasonable person can spend on an online student forum. You standard of acceptable argumentation is unrealistic and is a convenient way to dismiss opposing views and interpretations of modernity.

If I do cite my sources, spend hours on it, what's gonna happen is that you'll dismiss it with some cliche critique, such as ''Sample size is too small'', ''study was done by people on the right, so not trustworthy'' etc. It simply isn't worth the time.

So you expect others to source every single one of their claims, whereas you can happily resort to personal anecdotes? Give me a break.

If you have a problem with my post, then at best you can say that my post is untrustworthy, since I haven't linked every one of my sentences and letters with studies and reports. Yet you didn't say that, you actively disagreed and took the opposite stance - and you did so without substance, without sourcing anything yourself.

You can have the last word.

You didn't dismiss anything - you blatantly addressed their truth value by virtue of calling them false, which implies that the opposite of my claims is factually correct.

Disagreeing is not the same thing as dismissing. Calling a claim false is also not the same thing as dismissing. For example, by disagreeing with my claim about increase in teenage pregnancy, you've taken a stance that teenage pregnancy is not increasing. This is something that needs to be substantiated along with everything else that's supposedly false

Dismissal would involve not taking any position other than - ''your claim cannot be verified so I can't comment on it.''

Besides, you yourself use personal anecdotes to argue your points as well. I might as well quote a fellow user about the pedantry in this forum about ''evidence'':



You can have the last word.