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should have gone to a top 5 uni then and got a 2;1 pal.

Every job I applied to I was called up to at the very least an interview. Sometimes I even flopped their online tests and still got an interview LOL. This is with ZERO experience at all.

It must suck though your degree subject is very good it's just the 2;2 holding you back.
Original post by SloaneRanger
Have a bet with you that you can't im a serious gambler with big stakes, that would be a value bet to me. I will give you a year and half till your 30th to do so, lol.


Thanks for writing me off. :smile:

TBH mate, I hate people like you.

You have a set way of doing things, and if people go against the grain, you act like an arrogant ****.

I know there is a chance of failure, but you know what mate, at least I can say I tried. Unlike you, who is a spectator.
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Original post by fat_hobbit
Tom_Ford told me this, and he is a law grad. But I guess once again, you know better then people who actually studied the subject and know the industry.

Also, I remember when I applied to JP Morgan, tech side. On the app form, they asked you to disclose your modular marks.:rolleyes:


Certain companies also ask for social media links and picture, they are all optional,lol.
Original post by SloaneRanger
Certain companies also ask for social media links and picture, they are all optional,lol.


Your attitude stinks to be honest.

For someone who hasn't made it as an entrepreneur, you are in no position to go around questioning other people trying to make it as one.

Honestly, hate people like you. ****ing armchair spectators.
Original post by fat_hobbit
Thanks for writing me off. :smile:

TBH mate, I hate people like you.

You have a set way of doing things, and if people go against the grain, you act like an arrogant ****.

I know there is a chance of failure, but you know what mate, at least I can say I tried. Unlike you, who is a spectator.


I will start up my own pharmacy, but i will get a guaranteed NHS contract on doing so,lol. The registration is just the barrier, but passing it is £££ people die and get sick - win/win.

I will call my pharmacy - Jalebis

How can i be a spectator, ive worked for a start up it wasn't that great!
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Original post by SloaneRanger
I will start up my own pharmacy, but i will get a guaranteed NHS contract on doing so,lol.


It hasn't happened yet.

And tech is harder than that I can imagine. As you don't have the NHS subsidising you.

It took my friend 4 years to get backing from google. I bet if you knew him during those 4 years, like you have just done with me, you would try and discourage him with your negativity and corporate rheotoric.

Please, piss off.
Original post by fat_hobbit
It hasn't happened yet.

And tech is harder than that I can imagine. As you don't have the NHS subsidising you.

It took my friend 4 years to get backing from google. I bet if you knew him during those 4 years, like you have just done with me, you would try and discourage him with your negativity.

Please, piss off.


I got £50k off google on a 25 min phone call my works on the internet, says it all. All about the key decision makers!

Again i worked for a software house, tangible benefit, LMAO. I know what it takes a little start up, it was cute for 3 weeks.
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Original post by what is this
should have gone to a top 5 uni then and got a 2;1 pal.

Every job I applied to I was called up to at the very least an interview. Sometimes I even flopped their online tests and still got an interview LOL. This is with ZERO experience at all.

It must suck though your degree subject is very good it's just the 2;2 holding you back.


It is not that simple, but, the way I see it... you are competing with the whole world. Not just British universities. With graduate schemes, and particularly good ones, there are top graduates from places such as the Ivy League and elite universities from Asia/Europe. Go to any bulge bracket bank in London and you will see plenty of graduates from universities such as Bocconi/Sorbonne. It is an employer's market, they have the luxury of choice, the graduate does not really.
Original post by SloaneRanger
I got £50k off google on a 25 min phone call my works on the internet, says it all. All about the key decision makers!

Again i worked for a software house, tangible benefit, LMAO. I know what it takes a little start up, it was cute for 3 weeks.


You are not a co-founder/founder of a start up. By that, thought of an idea, developed it, then pitched it to investors which takes a lot of hard work.

You worked for one, you are a worker - huge difference.

So stop being a smart ass.

Anyway, I don't have time for this bull****.
Original post by Tom_Ford
It is not that simple, but, the way I see it... you are competing with the whole world. Not just British universities. With graduate schemes, and particularly good ones, there are top graduates from places such as the Ivy League and elite universities from Asia/Europe. Go to any bulge bracket bank in London and you will see plenty of graduates from universities such as Bocconi/Sorbonne. It is an employer's market, they have the luxury of choice, the graduate does not really.


I feel it too, when i looked at deutsch bank, goldman sachs, i just didn't bother im way under experienced and my qualifications are way below par.
Original post by Tom_Ford
It is not that simple, but, the way I see it... you are competing with the whole world. Not just British universities. With graduate schemes, and particularly good ones, there are top graduates from places such as the Ivy League and elite universities from Asia/Europe. Go to any bulge bracket bank in London and you will see plenty of graduates from universities such as Bocconi/Sorbonne. It is an employer's market, they have the luxury of choice, the graduate does not really.

Yeah at the top top investment banks and consulting firms, true but I wasn't interested in them much, I just applied to accountancy roles, IT jobs and other financial jobs from milky round. You are basically like a God for those roles.

but yeah at the top, top graduate jobs it's expected of you to have been at a top 5 uni and that alone doesn't impress them at all.
Original post by fat_hobbit
You are not a co-founder/founder of a start up. By that, thought of an idea, developed it, then pitched it to investors which takes a lot of hard work.

You worked for one, you are a worker - huge difference.

So stop being a smart ass.

Anyway, I don't have time for this bull****.


Neither are most directors, they get given the role by earning it! Its called working your way up, demonstrating a test of charactee, just like your disregard for shelf stacking and redoing alevels, laziness is a bad trait and there are no guarantees. But expecting to make a product from nothing and get millions, rather than redo a qualification and get a steady job? Shortcuts aren't alway the solution.
Original post by SloaneRanger
I feel it too, when i looked at deutsch bank, goldman sachs, i just didn't bother im way under experienced and my qualifications are way below par.


Know a guy on here called Zurich. First from LSE a year younger than the rest of the cohort, Economics. He struggled to get internships even with that profile because the recruiters were taking already qualified (primarily French) Europeans. Which makes sense because France faced what was pretty much an exodus of talent after the Hollande election. He is doing a PhD at LSE in Economics and is finding it easier now afaik, but it goes to show how high the bar is.
Original post by SloaneRanger
Neither are most directors, they get given the role by earning it! Its called working your way up, demonstrating a test of charactee, just like your disregard for shelf stacking and redoing alevels, laziness is a bad trait and there are no guarantees. But expecting to make a product from nothing and get millions, rather than redo a qualification and get a steady job? Shortcuts aren't alway the solution.


God for someone who went to KCL, your reading comprehension is ****.

My friend co founded that tech start up. In other words, he was there from the beginning. He did not work his way up. He created the damn thing with his business partner. And like everyone who takes this route there is always that fear of failure. But that is testament to how well he has done, by overcoming it and setting up a business that has now got corporate backing. The corporate backing did not happen overnight, it took time. It took 4 years. In between he didn't have a proper job, he was a contractor.

Tech start ups are not the easy route out, they require a lot of hard work and effort, but the reason why we do it , is because we enjoy the innovation aspect of it all. I also am doing a steady job.

Anyway, it's clear I am not going to get through to you.

You can't think outside the box, always want to be right and can't see anything beyond corporates. Sad.
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Original post by Tom_Ford
Know a guy on here called Zurich. First from LSE a year younger than the rest of the cohort, Economics. He struggled to get internships even with that profile because the recruiters were taking already qualified (primarily French) Europeans. Which makes sense because France faced what was pretty much an exodus of talent after the Hollande election. He is doing a PhD at LSE in Economics and is finding it easier now afaik, but it goes to show how high the bar is.


Oo...I was like wtf looking at some of these positions on a sales trading floor, fluent in a foreign language - no chance. No way i can learn Russian to a decent level, this was like societe generale, people like fathobbit are lazy. If i wanted that job i would have gone out and learnt Russian at my own expense. Competition for the best is always going to be fierce, people like him aren't willing to rise up to the challenge, but complain.
Original post by what is this
should have gone to a top 5 uni then and got a 2;1 pal.

Every job I applied to I was called up to at the very least an interview. Sometimes I even flopped their online tests and still got an interview LOL. This is with ZERO experience at all.

It must suck though your degree subject is very good it's just the 2;2 holding you back.


The experience requirement is overstated. Many times, you do not need any professional experience at all. They know graduates won't tend to have much experience. Once you get to interview it is very much how much they would like to work with you that is at the crux of their decision. Source: family who conduct interviews, plus other contacts, take it with a pinch of salt obviously.
Original post by MUN123
I graduated last month with a 2:2 in Computer science and since then I have been applying for graduate jobs non-stop with a lot of rejections. I then had to sign on JSA, now the Job center are advising me to work for free for 2 weeks in a call center to get "experience" which I've refused because I dislike to be exploited by the company and work for free in a field that does not interest me.

I explained to the Job centers that I'm interested in IT jobs to which they replied that they would not be paying me benefits so that I could sit and wait for a very specific job. And after applying to loads of minimum wage jobs and getting loads of rejections they want me to work for free in some crappy job to get experience.

The other day they sent me to a compulsory course which explained about how to use the internet to apply for jobs I thought it was laughable they must be stuck in the 90's. They have no clue on how to deal with graduates


Not sure what you are talking about.

I know one guy who has took 5 years to do a 3 year degree. Got a 2:2 and has a job offer from 2 companies for 30 Grand+
Original post by Tom_Ford
The experience requirement is overstated. Many times, you do not need any professional experience at all. They know graduates won't tend to have much experience. Once you get to interview it is very much how much they would like to work with you that is at the crux of their decision. Source: family who conduct interviews, plus other contacts, take it with a pinch of salt obviously.

Yeah I know but the thing is with my uni I had no problem getting to at least interview stage for whichever job I applied to.

University matters a lot nowadays. I'd rather do psychology at oxford than computer science at a second or third tier university.
Original post by fat_hobbit
God for someone who went to KCL, your reading comprehension is ****.

My friend co founded that tech start up. In other words, he was there from the beginning. He did not work his way up. He created the damn thing with his business partner. And like everyone who takes this route there is always that fear of failure. But that is testament to how well he has done, by overcoming it and setting up a business that has now got corporate backing. The corporate backing did not happen overnight, it took time.

Anyway, it's clear I am not going to get through to you.

You can't think outside the box, always want to be right and see anything beyond corporates. Sad.


Its sad that the same very kid Pm'd me depressed, upset how his life choices have alienated him for having a social life and having no female relationships. He was that depressed i actually felt for him, he felt all alone. After the mishaps you cause, his dreams and aspirations destroyed. He was a kid with everything ahead of him, he even wanted a perfect 10 girl, the type of dream girl once he made his money. Now the payday loans and the job im the bookie is all he has. Im trying to stop people from falling in the same trap. He was pleading to me to show him how to hold a conversation with a girl, i was seriously like wtf.
Original post by what is this
Yeah I know but the thing is with my uni I had no problem getting to at least interview stage for whichever job I applied to.

University matters a lot nowadays. I'd rather do psychology at oxford than computer science at a second or third tier university.


Agreed, but then you get people like fathobbit telling people that going to lesser institions for apparently great teaching is the solution to making big £££.

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