I'm a 2:2 graduate I can't even get minimum wage jobs

Again if I have a 2.1 degree in CS from an ivy, how are my skills transferable to this job?

Do you even know how socially awkward these guys are, the whole stereotype of a nerd exists for a reason.

That is people skills.

You don't spent 4 years at uni doing a degree in people skills, you study abstract topics.

Plenty it shows you ability to comprehend large amounts of information, identify opportunities and gaps in the implementation of key priorities and proactively seek creative solutions to resolve issues. This is from your degree, because at an IVY you would be doing this day in day out. Ability to speak Spanish, you learn that because its taught in high school, like compulsory.

Experience on working on large complex projects as part of a team - done in CS
Experience of delivering business change projects as part of a team - done in CS
Ability to scope projects and a track record of good project delivery - done in CS
Experience of working cross-functionally and influencing delivery - done in CS
Experience of working with external consultants desirable but not essential - done in CS

Rest assure, they don't teach you that in a CS degree at Imperial.

That is my point, people skills is not academia.

I graduated last month with a 2:2 in Computer science and since then I have been applying for graduate jobs non-stop with a lot of rejections. I then had to sign on JSA, now the Job center are advising me to work for free for 2 weeks in a call center to get "experience" which I've refused because I dislike to be exploited by the company and work for free in a field that does not interest me.

I explained to the Job centers that I'm interested in IT jobs to which they replied that they would not be paying me benefits so that I could sit and wait for a very specific job. And after applying to loads of minimum wage jobs and getting loads of rejections they want me to work for free in some crappy job to get experience.

The other day they sent me to a compulsory course which explained about how to use the internet to apply for jobs I thought it was laughable they must be stuck in the 90's. They have no clue on how to deal with graduates

Standard in sales across the board.

Point is you emphasise people skills, that is not academic and you do not learn that on a CS degree - I have a CS degree you know?

Depends on the individual, but the vast majority of Imperial grads end up in high end places, says it all.

Well when there is a bias towards people with x amount of UCAS points etc what do you expect?

People skills are environment, "ordering milky chai" at starbuck or sitting at a table eating "jalebis" is a sociable thing to do. It depends on the level on conversation you choose to have, if your talking to a cabbage then they won't develop.

Then you need to blame the person that influence the lack of it. In the real world decision makers and influencers are held accountable for bad decision making. Like if a company makes a loss the directors face the consequence. So bad parents should be held accountable? Because some parents like to go out and drink and do powder till they are blue in the face. I believe in responsibility and accountability.

Plenty it shows you ability to comprehend large amounts of information, identify opportunities and gaps in the implementation of key priorities and proactively seek creative solutions to resolve issues. This is from your degree, because at an IVY you would be doing this day in day out. Ability to speak Spanish, you learn that because its taught in high school, like compulsory.

Experience on working on large complex projects as part of a team - done in CS
Experience of delivering business change projects as part of a team - done in CS
Ability to scope projects and a track record of good project delivery - done in CS
Experience of working cross-functionally and influencing delivery - done in CS
Experience of working with external consultants desirable but not essential - done in CS

Point is your actual job is not academically taxing.

If you was a professor at a uni, then fair enough. But you just sell **** and do a bit of project management.

Im in luxury tourism…. to get IBM qualifications be useless to my company. But you still get the same accreditations as you would if you were a developer as a sales person working in IT, for example. IBM they would give u the same training an accreditation…… who is to blame… the head of IBM for deciding upon educating his salesforce?

People with 2.2's don't deserve jobs. Getting a 2.1 is not exactly difficult.

That's funny because CS graduates have one of the highest rates of unemployment among graduates. MadVlad recently wrote how useless CS degrees are in the sense that they lack a practical approach and are extremely theoretical. Some Google searches seems to back this up with anecdotal evidence of CS graduates not being able to write relatively simple algorithms or being Jack of many trades yet master of none.

Harsh Im sure some people may have had extenuating circumstances and so on

They don't believe in giving people second chances mate.

I think it's probably because they are threatened by increased competition by doing so.

Yeah industrial qualifications.

If I wanted to do my prince 2 , they don't give a **** what uni you studied at.

That's funny because CS graduates have one of the highest rates of unemployment among graduates. MadVlad recently wrote how useless CS degrees are in the sense that they lack a practical approach and are extremely theoretical. Some Google searches seems to back this up with anecdotal evidence of CS graduates not being able to write relatively simple algorithms or being Jack of many trades yet master of none.