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Would you homeschool your children?

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I personally wouldn't.

I think that the school environment is a really positive one for kids, and I really enjoyed my time at school in a friendly and supportive atmosphere. I wouldn't want my kids to miss out on that.
Original post by Mr M
I have to ask. In what way is the National Curriculum disgusting?

Not all of it, specifically stuff like sex education. Aren't they proposing they teach it earlier on primary school? I don't want my children exposed to that at such a young age
No, kids that go to single sex schools turned up ****ed up enough, so ones that don't even get to spend time round other kids must be even worse.

Never met a normal home school kid.
Original post by Huskaris
No, kids that go to single sex schools turned up ****ed up enough, so ones that don't even get to spend time round other kids must be even worse.

Never met a normal home school kid.


Single sex school kids are fine.

In what way are they messed up haha

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Original post by Mubariz
Single sex school kids are fine.

In what way are they messed up haha

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I spent a lot of time with kids from single sex schools. The girls were generally exceptionally slutty and had issues around boys and self confidence, and the guys were absolutely pathetic in general.
Original post by Huskaris
I spent a lot of time with kids from single sex schools. The girls were generally exceptionally slutty and had issues around boys and self confidence, and the guys were absolutely pathetic in general.


Okay, so this is based on only what you have seen, therefore it can be ignored.

I'd say girls who went to mixed schools are more likely to be slutty because they've been exposed to guys for longer etc etc.

And the guys, there's a private boys only school not far from where I live, a lot of my friends go there and many of them are the most confident, outgoing people I know, to the point where I sometimes dislike them cos I don't like people who are too loud.

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Original post by Mubariz
Okay, so this is based on only what you have seen, therefore it can be ignored.

I'd say girls who went to mixed schools are more likely to be slutty because they've been exposed to guys for longer etc etc.

And the guys, there's a private boys only school not far from where I live, a lot of my friends go there and many of them are the most confident, outgoing people I know, to the point where I sometimes dislike them cos I don't like people who are too loud.

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Well if you are going to ignore everything I have seen, I can't be bothered to read the rest of what you wrote.

May your arrogance be your downfall.
Original post by Huskaris
Well if you are going to ignore everything I have seen, I can't be bothered to read the rest of what you wrote.

May your arrogance be your downfall.


Its not about arrogance, it's about the fact that it's not real evidence. It can be affected by so many factors such as area, and suchlike that it really has no relevance

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Original post by themorninglight
Not all of it, specifically stuff like sex education. Aren't they proposing they teach it earlier on primary school? I don't want my children exposed to that at such a young age


Sex education "disgusts" you? May I ask why?
Original post by Mr M
Sex education "disgusts" you? May I ask why?

I don't think kids aged 5-11 should be taught that kind of stuff. Too young.
Original post by themorninglight
I don't think kids aged 5-11 should be taught that kind of stuff. Too young.


I'm no expert on this but I don't think they are given gritty details at that age. There is no point in leaving it until after they have all become sexually active.
you would allow the child to be free and explore their personality a lot more because home-schooling would be flexible. that being said, the education system is a little weird in England and the child would still have to sit formal examinations at a local school or college when they get to the appropriate age. I know many who pass just fine. but a few of my friends (home-schooled) found it hard when they did their a-levels. They didn't know the essay structure well despite knowing the content, failed at AS Level.
I wouldn't want to home-school my child as I feel like I wouldn't give them the right tools to get by in life (also I am very socially awkward so it would rub off on them).
Plus, some of the best memories are made whilst at school. I'm sure many would agree with that.
The worst thing about schools of all descriptions is that children are forced to endure the company of a lot of other children at close quarters for hours every day and often without adult supervision / oversight. In the same way I have nothing in common with 95% of the population I generally equally dislike the behaviour of their children, and I simply would not want my children being forced to share a space with such people. There is no point in trying to inculcate good manners and morals at home if a child is simply exposed to base behaviour all day at school by other pupils who may in varying degrees be anti social, abusive, violent, manipulative, bullying, delinquent, or overtly criminal. I went to one of the worst private boarding schools in the country at the age of 8 and my parents were abroad. We all sat on nominated tables to eat. The "head" of our table in adult life was convicted of some of the most brutal sexually sadistic murders in criminal history, with more than a suspicion that there were a multitude of other offences unaccounted for. Sending any child to a state school you simply do not know who they are mixing with.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/child-genius
One of these children was actually home educated; pursuing only the areas that she finds interesting. And what happened? She was completely unable to add, or to carry out the most mundane requirements for her life. Why? Because she was never tested; and without tests, and peers to compare themselves to, children become arrogant and unjustifiably secure in their ability. As horrible as this seems, we need very much to stress kids out with exams!
Original post by lucaf
doesn't make it less insulting or more true.

Why is it insulting?

again, useful for an adult. Not for a child who doesn't know nearly as much as they think they do. It is healthy to question things, but that doesn't mean kids always get the answers.

I don't believe the whole "kids don't know anything and we need to tell them what to do"

Of course, but just telling kids not to hit eachother isn't going to prevent it.


No, but a more educational approach as to why differences are good would help



People definitely need a basic education in more than maths and english. History, RE, and sciences are the most important, or they grow up ignorant of the world and how it works. PE and art too are probably important to make sure kids try, although less critical. Only thing I don't see why we have compulsory really is languages. And fair enough misunderstood what you meant by targets.

Why are they important? Sorry but why, as a makeup artist, is it imperative I took GCSE Chemistry?






What happened to it being ok for people to have different hobbies and celebrating peoples differences? :rolleyes: Fair enough if you think the things other people like are boring but then disliking them and looking down on them for it is just hypocritical, you are just as bad as the people you criticize.


It's okay to be normal and generic! I just don't like socialising with people like that and don't like the way many of them treat those of us who prefer to be more individual
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Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
Why is it insulting?

You don't think calling people generic drones is an insult?


I don't believe the whole "kids don't know anything and we need to tell them what to do"
It is true to a point, or do you think you can rationally explain to a seven year old bedtime? Or why he can't skip school? All the logical argument in the world isn't going to top "I would rather be playing videogames"


No, but a more educational approach as to why differences are good would help
pretty sure I have suffered through a few PSHE lessons about that in my time.



Why are they important? Sorry but why, as a makeup artist, is it imperative I took GCSE Chemistry?


So you think people should just go around completely ignorant to the way the world works? Ignorance has real world consequences, and I would rather not live in a society where people don't have the most basic clue of evolution, gravity, world war 2, what water is and can't point to the UK on a map. No, these things might not necessarily be useful for everybody in their career, but I would have thought you of all people would understand the value of not just learning things to further your career.

At what stage do you think kids should actually choose what subjects to take? You know, that small little decision that impacts the rest of their education and life?



It's okay to be normal and generic! I just don't like socialising with people like that and don't like the way many of them treat those of us who prefer to be more individual


It's ok for people to be generic, and yet you look down on them and dislike them? You are awfully judgemental for somebody whose main problem with people seems to be them judging you. Why does it matter if someone likes the same thing that lots of other people do? Looking at your profile you obviously like ASOIAF, does the fact that it is one of the most popular pieces of fiction of our time mean you enjoy it less? If you don't like people criticizing your hobbies and life choices, don't have the gall to look down on other people for theirs.

Luckily in my experience most people who do try to break the mould are not quite as up themselves about it as you are.
Original post by lucaf
You don't think calling people generic drones is an insult?

The only people it would be insulting to are those who are that

It is true to a point, or do you think you can rationally explain to a seven year old bedtime? Or why he can't skip school? All the logical argument in the world isn't going to top "I would rather be playing videogames"


My approach would be to let them get on with it, wait for them to have a **** day because they were tired, and come to their own conclusions


pretty sure I have suffered through a few PSHE lessons about that in my time.

A few PSHE lessons really is not enough


So you think people should just go around completely ignorant to the way the world works? Ignorance has real world consequences, and I would rather not live in a society where people don't have the most basic clue of evolution, gravity, world war 2, what water is and can't point to the UK on a map. No, these things might not necessarily be useful for everybody in their career, but I would have thought you of all people would understand the value of not just learning things to further your career.

I don't think people should be made to study something that has no interest to them. No it's not all about careers, it's about what interests you. Why study something that is neither interesting nor helpful?


At what stage do you think kids should actually choose what subjects to take? You know, that small little decision that impacts the rest of their education and life?





It's ok for people to be generic, and yet you look down on them and dislike them? You are awfully judgemental for somebody whose main problem with people seems to be them judging you. Why does it matter if someone likes the same thing that lots of other people do? Looking at your profile you obviously like ASOIAF, does the fact that it is one of the most popular pieces of fiction of our time mean you enjoy it less? If you don't like people criticizing your hobbies and life choices, don't have the gall to look down on other people for theirs.

I "dislike" them in that I don't want to hang around with them, and in my experience, they have been nasty. I'm not saying they're all like that.

No, it doesn't. I don't hate things because other people like them. I'd be really happy if the things I like became popular! If society started admiring philosophers and artists as opposed to football players and reality stars, I'd be glad

Luckily in my experience most people who do try to break the mould are not quite as up themselves about it as you are.

I'm not "up myself" thank you very much!
No, I think that school is important in developing social skills, and I would never be disciplined enough to be able to be taught by myself - I'd get bored and stop concentrating.
Plus, (I know nothing about home-schooling, so I may be wrong! :tongue:), isn't it kinda hard to learn practical skills within sciences, unless you were to start your own lab within your house?

I never really experienced bullying past the age of 13 (and I'm pretty sure I'm different enough to have warranted it!), so that would be a non-issue; I guess you could home-school up until then, but I definitely think you should be in school for all of GCSEs - A-levels.
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Original post by Tyrion_Lannister
The only people it would be insulting to are those who are that

Or people you consider generic because they have commonplace interests that don't appeal to you, who are perfectly interesting in their own right and who don't deserve the negative connotations that come with "generic" and "drone". You clearly don't have a great grasp of how insults work.


My approach would be to let them get on with it, wait for them to have a **** day because they were tired, and come to their own conclusions
They wouldn't be tired if they decide to give themselves a lie in. And when as a result your child decided not to go into school (or in your case not to do any lessons at home), would your approach would be to hope they have an awful day at home playing games?


A few PSHE lessons really is not enough
and you would suggest?



I don't think people should be made to study something that has no interest to them. No it's not all about careers, it's about what interests you. Why study something that is neither interesting nor helpful?


Because it is useful, maybe not to your career but just in general. And you didn't answer, when should kids have the option of what they want to learn?



I "dislike" them in that I don't want to hang around with them, and in my experience, they have been nasty. I'm not saying they're all like that.
it is clearly more than a difference of interests, you obviously and openly look don on people

I'm not "up myself" thank you very much!


Anybody who refers to the majority of society as generic drones is clearly comfortably wedged somewhere in their own colon, the superiority complex is just palpable.
Original post by lucaf
Or people you consider generic because they have commonplace interests that don't appeal to you, who are perfectly interesting in their own right and who don't deserve the negative connotations that come with "generic" and "drone". You clearly don't have a great grasp of how insults work.

Or I'm just not offended easily. It's my opinion and I'm allowed to give it. I don't see why that has offended you


They wouldn't be tired if they decide to give themselves a lie in. And when as a result your child decided not to go into school (or in your case not to do any lessons at home), would your approach would be to hope they have an awful day at home playing games?

How would they lie in if everyone else was getting up and making a racket? My approach would be to explain to them why it's a bad idea and wait for them to come around

When I was a child, if I wanted to do something, there was no way you could stop me. Trying to be authoritarian would make me rebel. By taking away the rules, you take away anything for them to rebel against!

and you would suggest?

It should be everywhere. Kids books should feature gay characters. Shows should have disabled people. Kids should be exposed to all sorts of people on a daily basis. We should have a weekly lesson on tolerance and understanding





Because it is useful, maybe not to your career but just in general. And you didn't answer, when should kids have the option of what they want to learn?

It's not useful if you're not interested in it. And I think 14 is fine, but with less restriction



it is clearly more than a difference of interests, you obviously and openly look don on people

I look down on people who are nasty


Anybody who refers to the majority of society as generic drones is clearly comfortably wedged somewhere in their own colon, the superiority complex is just palpable.

So if you're surrounded by a load of *****, it's superior to call it out?

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