The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

Maybe when Gaza's citizens stop allowing themselves to be used as a human shield by Hamas the IDF will no longer be forced to defend themselves.

the same EU that regarded hamas a terrorist organisation? odd. eu monitors are not the authority of elections in my mind. where was the UN?

When burglars enter your home, you don't sit down for tea with one whilst his mates rob you blind.

You blow their ****ing head off. Politely, of course...

no, i think there is a correlation between an increase in islamist propaganda re gaza and amti semitic attacks on jews

the above comment in a nutshell illustrates the ignorance of the islamist mindset. all well and good to purpotrate the propagnda that 'we will kill , slaughter the enemy and sacrifice every drop of blood etc etc blah blah' - dont you think that the otherside would be able to act in exactly the same way? you cant act aggressively and violently in someones face then complain when they react back at you with violence.

i wonder if islamists still think they are the only military power in the world

The outcome of the process does not detract from the legitimacy of the process and it is disingenuous for you to try and conflate the two...

Maybe you missed the part where a "burglar enters your home"...

im querying the entire process.

and the fact that paelstinains would elect terrorists and islamist to govern them. i suppose germans made a similar mistake in 1933. again im wondering how long the collective ignorance will take to lift for muslim countries to get a whiff of the real world

But no cause and effect. That's heartening to know.

there is still a debate as to who rightly should own it, seeing as the jews where living there first and the arabs did in fact steal it in the past

It is not for you to "query the entire process" given the fact that your objections to the 2006 Palestinian Legislative elections are utterly baseless and without foundation and dare I say, perpetrated by your hostility and disposition towards Islam.

we will never know unless a controlled survey is done. but certainly we say that islamist propaganda on gaza has increased anti semitism in the uk recently

there is still a debate as to who rightly should own it, seeing as the jews where living there first and the arabs did in fact steal it in the past

Au contraire.

I suggest you educate yourself about the differences between a military conquest and demanding your own state after mass illegal immigration. ...

Israel was borne out of violence and terrorist attacks and it will end in the same manner...

Well it is only fair then that the aborigines should be armed and supported by the west since australia was their home and they rightly own it, and the whit australians ''sole it''

You say you need a "controlled study" but apparently, you have already concluded your study.

Please try and remember that you have said that it is only correlation and not causation which effectively means "ziltch", to parody your term.

well actually , hostility toward a registered terrorist group recognised by most major countries and bodies - so fully foundation.

ok, so by your logic this whole issue will be solved if isreal actually invade both gaza and WB militarily and annex it. this from of ownership you seem to have no issue with. good , why didnt you jsut suggest this solution at the start?

dont worry , despite your pedantry, everyone else is actually aware of the reality.

In your opinions, why are those objections not legitimate?
​We were discussing the demands Palestinians might make to Israel if Israel had adopted a policy of appeasement in order to be recognized and live in peace with Palestinians. Those objections would not be legitimate because they would defeat the purpose of the exercise.


Palisrael has a nice ring to it...Because if one party was happy, it would mean that one side got more than they bargained for and would inevitably lead to more conflict.

If both sides are unhappy, then they would look at the other and see them in the same position and thus would be unwilling to engage as it would achieve nothing.



Those "terrorist attacks" do not threaten Gazan national security but they do "threaten" Israeli national security

They do though. They threaten the legitimacy of the ceasefire, thus they threaten national security, as Israel might retaliate if the ceasefire is not respected.


On Israel as it effectively operates a blockade and therefore has the means and the fire power to hold those accountable.

But Israel has retreated from Gaza and does not want to govern there. Egypt also operates a blockade on Gaza, does that mean that they can also go in and hold terrorists accountable?



I believe Israel and the Western States have classified them as a "terror organisation" whilst many individuals consider them to be "resistance fighters"...

​That's a nice way to beat around the bush, I'm asking you whether you specifically believe them to be a terror organization or resistance fighters.



When burglars enter your home, you don't sit down for tea with one whilst his mates rob you blind.

You blow their ****ing head off. Politely, of course...

An entire neighbourhood is bombed to annihilation by the IDF in gaza, within one hour.
With total disregard to property and lives. God only knows how many innocent lives were lost
This is nothing other than sheer wanton destruction and state terror.

We are talking about the election process, not the nature or manner of the parties involved. The elections were deemed "fair and transparent" by the EU as have been pointed out to you on numerous occasions....

Jews and the West are "infact (sic) terrorists"? Wow! A startling admission, even from you. ...

Which in itself would be illegitimate as they have already "conquered the region by mass illegal immigration". Anything on the back of that would just be redundant ...

More whataboutery? Hell, the pro-Israeli's just can't turn it off, can they? It must have been ingrained and brainwashed into them from when they were test tube babies... ...

Which is why Israel are trying to muddy the waters by "pigeonholing" HAMAS along with IS and Al Qaeda when we all know this conflict is not solely religious but nationalistic in nature...