The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

Better to put him on ignore list. His posts make my blood boil.

All i want is peace. If Hamas will not abolish their claim to 1967 borders then the fastest route to peace is their annihilation and the absorbing of Gaza into Israel.

Lol but it is. You can't possibly call yourself a Muslim if your Muslim brothers and sisters (who are innocent) are being massacred by the illegal state that you supposedly support. The Ummah (Muslim community) is like a body, if one part of the body hurts the whole body hurts.


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What was so offensive or incorrect about the OP that you felt it necessary to post this drivel?

I can't have a civilised debate with someone who defends actions of a state that is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of innocent men, women and children.

You wouldn't have a civilised debate with a Nazi sympathiser. This is much the same.

The current attacks against Gaza are the Palestinians fault they refuse to negotiate and continue launching missiles from behind their women and children against Israeli civilians then complain when the Israeli government responds they are basically being cowards and allowing their women and children to suffer while they keep launching missiles and complaining.

The fact that OP cited a Pat Condell as providing a basis for (or otherwise summarising) his support of Israel really lost him all credibility at the first hurdle, to be honest.

Some strong logic there bro

Hamas is an issue which needs to be dealt with now. Thousands of rockets have been fired into the sovereign country of Israel. Israel has offered "palestine" a two state agreement and it has been rejected twice and opted for war.

For Israels own personal security it cannot let "palestine" develop as it would be a threat to its citizens. 44% of Palestinians (adults) voted for Hamas which is a considerable chunk for a terrorist organisation. Israeli aid has been rejected.

That's some slightly tribal reasoning

At the core I support Israel because I understand the need for a Jewish state, I'm confident that their can be a peaceful outcome and I recognise the great things that Israel has to offer e.g. great stem cell advances, its domesticly very progressive and it is democratic. However I disagree with Benjamin Netanyahu's agenda because it clearly does not prioritise peace.

I have been wondering, do your religious beliefs assist your opinion of Israel? This war has been going on for so long, and even in Northern Ireland, people are fully aware of the danger and risks of staying then they bitch and moan when something bad happens. If they truly cared for the lives of their children, they would move, they would get out somehow - look at all the refugees who truly flee for their lives during wars in Africa, they have no money, and they have a stronger will to survive than to say 'but my forefathers owned this!' and just stay there.

The UN refugee sites are not being bombed precisely because they are not a part of the conflict - the only people who choose to stay are the ones who want to fight, want to bomb and hurt each other, making it a no go zone - as it had been previously - had worked fine until people - on both sides - climbed over and started trying to claim 'squatter's rights'

There is no way there will be peace because Hamas (riding off the coat tails of the Muslim Brotherhood) will never allow it to happen. Take away their toy and they can no longer fight over it. They can only remain in power as long as they have conflict due to the hatred they have flared up in order to gain support. You cannot say you condone all of their actions?

Both are at fault from doing that childish nonsense which cost so many lives on BOTH sides. The people who are being hurt need to choose to get themselves away, because those in power are too up their own power hungry jacksies to care about the people they are choosing to kill - religious extremists thrive on war so by removing their fuel is the only option, they will never participate in peace agreements as they have no desire for peace as they would lose their stronghold.

The current attacks against Gaza are the Palestinians fault they refuse to negotiate and continue launching missiles from behind their women and children against Israeli civilians then complain when the Israeli government responds they are basically being cowards and allowing their women and children to suffer while they keep launching missiles and complaining.

The greatest myth would be the Holocaust. There is such a one sided narrative to WW2 that of course is that the evil Nazi's came to power, wanted to take over the world and exterminate the Jews. First it was exterminate Jews in Europe, then they changed it to exterminate all the Jews in the world. What people don't understand is communist that spread from Eastern Europe was largely Jewish and the first Soviet Union was heavily Jewish. Do people have any idea how much evil these communist inflicted? some of it they even pinned on the Nazi's. But even the Nazi's had many Jewish members which makes you wonder if the Nazi's were partially controlled opposition or simply Jews who wanted to fight against Communism. Remember without the Nazi's and WW2 would those 6 million + Jews be in Israel now?