The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

How so? I believe the immigrants to America fought wars with the indigenous populations and triumphed.

i.e: military conquest.

Correct me if I have got it wrong...

So you deny that holocaust survivors as well as Russian immigrants numbering in their thousands and indeed, hundreds of thousands immigrated to Israel before the creation of the State of Israel?

So you deny that the Haganah and the Stern Gang terrorised the people as well as the British administration in their quest for a state?

I am not asking for my comments to be "given all the necessary consideration", I'm asking you to not derail the thread.



As I have said and reiterated, you are free to reply or ignore me.

well at least that clear then, you wish israel to conquer the entire gaza strip as long as they do so properly ie with weapons and kill a lot of people, as the americans did, and the arabs in this region. that is the form of action you respect.

I do not mean to be rude or presumptuous but is English your first language?

I have informed you on numerous occasions what situations "I find acceptable" and yet here you are, telling me you are "clear" when you are prattling on about something entirely different. I don't know how much clearer I could be...

If the Muslims, after mass illegal immigration, demanded their own state in their immigrated countries intending to turf out the indigenous population as well as subjugating them by imposing harsh and humiliating restrictions on their every day life, then it would be remiss of them.

Terrorist Organisation? do you even know what a terrorist is? "Israel" are the real terrorist killing innocent people, cutting off the electricity supply and the sad thing is that none of the major powerful countries give a sh*t. If it was a Muslim country and they did the same then they would get lots of hate and i'm sure that they would be attacked from countries such as the US. the U.S. military aid to Israel was $2.775 billion in 2010, $3 billion in 2011, $3.07 billion in 2012 (and $3.15 billion per year from 2013-2018).

you stated you were in favour of ownership by military conquest, as the arabs had done and the european immgrants to america. therefore you must be in approval of israel conquering gaza militarily too because its the same thing (unless you are being selective based on your personal racial/religious prejudices)

Nice rebuttal. Didn't see you comment on any of my other points.

I'm on neither side, both sides kill innocents for no reason. I have a question to ponder if a two state solution was made & Israel laid down arms how long would it take for Hamas to try & wipe them out?

I ignored them because you called Hamas rockets "fireworks" when I had already shown you they are anything but.

Don't waste my time.

I won't reply again.

I have suggested that if you want to talk about Muslim immigration or Islamist groups, you should create a new thread where I'm sure you will find many a persons eager to rebut and correct your misconstrued, flawed and naiive opinions.

I received a phone call at 3 am last night. The voice on the other end was a male who i did not know with an accent different to mine. He said something that made me jump out of my bed with fear. I picked up my baby who lay beside me in bed and ran out of my bedroom as fast as i could into the next room where my other 4 children slept. I screamed at them and shook them to get up and run. We had to get out of the house fast. In my head i knew i should have taken the baby and ran out without the others if wanted to have any chance of surviving another day but my heart could not bare to do such a thing. How would i bare to live another day anyway if i was to lose my children. I managed to wake the kids up finally. And i gathered them up yelling at them not to bother grabbing anything just run for their lives.We have rehearsed this drill so many times before so the kids new exactly what to do. With no power in the house and no time to light a candle it was difficult to get to the front door without tripping over the furniture but we seemed to be getting through at a good pace. We made it past the hall way and into the kitchen. The kids all holding onto me with fear. We were heading towards the front door when we heard the noise. We all froze suddenly. I looked down at my kids i could hear their voices tremmbling their little bodies shaking in fear. My baby in my arms crying loudly was suddenly drowned out by the sound of what was to come. We were so close to the front door. So close. My children, all five held onto me. I pushed them to the ground And i tried to use my body to cover them all and protect them. Hoping my flesh and bones would be enough to stop it from harming my beautiful children but knowing it wouldnt be enough. I held them all under my body and told them i loved them. And then it hit.

they can still do that today, instead of 'slaughtering ' the germans and turks, they simply slaughter the islamists controlling gaza. so again thats the action you promote, i think then you need to review some of the propaganda in your posts, as you should be asking for an increase in military activity by israel, or a full on assault. again this would create massive casualties as any invasion or conquest would - but true to islamist mindset, the lives of everyday muslims arnt important to you are they, they are simply 'shaheeds' in the making

Israel are committing war crimes. There is no self defense when the target is children playing football on a beach or bombing hospitals and UN shelters. Netanyahu is using this to destroy Palestinians and create a greater Israel

That one is not worth the time. You'll get the same reply over and over.

Baghdad Bob is that you? =)

Everyday palestinians do not have either the resources or knowhow to build suitable shelters. Hamas don't really give a crop, more civillian casualties the better for them.

Before rants, I'm anti-Hamas not Palestine.