The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

So, how do they negotiate anything? "Terrorism" is often a response to being ignored.

The missile attacks on Israel are not acts of Terrorism they are acts of war.. Hamas are unable to carry out Terrorist attacks anymore because of Israels defence and security..

Israel will negotiate, however Hamas are demanding things acting like they have a shred of power in the situation, which they dont, which is why the negotiations are going nowhere.

72hr truce announced by Israel and hamas

Let's see if the terrorists can adhere to a truce for the first time in this conflict.

Then how do they resist the current occupation or what is effectively an occupation?

Protest? Well, a million marched against Iraq in the UK and all around the world. Didn't really do anything. Thousands marched against student fees. Did the government listen?

Protesting is just an illusion to show the masses that those in charge "listen" so they don't pick up arms and threaten the government.

Be like the West Bank? Well, look how well it's gone for them. Settlers on nearly half their land plus around 65% of the West Bank is controlled by Israel and still the Israeli government doesn't negotiate with them.

Said it on instagram? Legit.

And there in lies the issue. Violence forces negotiation, sitting there and doing nothing does not.

The simple answer is they dont, they stop resisting and accept Israels control over the region, and attempt to move on with their lives. If you had 5 years of complete peace the Palestinians would achieve far more than needlessly firing rockets on a daily basis.

In doing so, they give recognition to the State of Israel which legitimatize the Israeli state.

In doing so, they lose all historical claims to the land from which they were turfed out of.

In doing so, they reject the hope that the Palestinian refugees would be able to return home.

In doing so, they face the prospect of losing what they have at the moment.



There is no sense, no logic, no thought into your "solution" for the Palestinians of Gaza....

Violence causes death to a far greater scale than it causes negotiation. Especially when the violence is being asserted by a weaker country.

As i said above, if there was peace in the region for a period of a few years, the palestinians would achieve so much more. But this will never happen as Israel have effectively been under attack for more nearly 70 years.

That photo is nothing to do with the current conflict, is over a year old and is representative of the kind of "social media outrage" that you get now, with people not even clear what they are looking at.

One thing i believe is lacking in pro-palestinian posters on here is plausible solutions.

Israel will never give itself back to Muslim rulers, it just wont happen. They are not in anyway losing the war against Hamas and thus being Anti-Israel is a fair enough opinion, but people have to think realistically about the situation.

Explain how peace leads to them being listened to?

One thing i believe is lacking in pro-palestinian posters on here is plausible solutions.

Israel will never give itself back to Muslim rulers, it just wont happen. They are not in anyway losing the war against Hamas and thus being Anti-Israel is a fair enough opinion, but people have to think realistically about the situation.

If you look back at the old British Empire, i know its very different, but most occupied lands did indeed lose their identity and succumbed to British rule, yet look where they are now..

Have you even seen the international reaction? Even the US is starting to turn against them.


How does this support your​ position?

Something Something Mahatma Gandhi.

Something Something Mahatma Gandhi.

I'm thinking one state solution with a right to return for all Palestinian refugees and elections 3 months within the implementation of this proposal.

How does that sound to you?

Let's see what Mahatma Ghandi actually said about Palestine (An except):

"Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct. The mandates have no sanction but that of the last war. Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home. The nobler course would be to insist on a just treatment of the Jews wherever they are born and bred."