The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

Rocket alert sirens sounded in the Beer Sheba region on Friday afternoon.

Earlier on Friday morning, a planned 72-hour ceasefire went into effect, however it was quickly broken.


So much for that. At least the world sees who keeps breaking the ceasefire.

Um, no.

America would be far better off making friends of the Arabs than the Israeli's.

Let's face it, there are a lot of them in that region and they control most of the natural resources in that region.

It is inevitable that the Israeli state shall cease to exist within the 30-40 years...

Ghandi lived in india , not palestine.
someone buy this lad a map

Did Hamas accept the ceasefire? or was it just a pause in the massacre? Do you fear rocket sirens or do you fear missiles coming at you more? Posted from TSR Mobile

Except they won't be making friends with the Arabs. There is too much bad history there, not to mention that America is not interested in being equal with the Arabs. This would mean the Arabs would be able to jack up their oil prices. It's much better if America keeps the Arab states subjugated and under constant conflict so it doesn't risk them becoming anywhere near as powerful as the US of A.

Nice to see Israel causing the breakdown of yet another ceasefire... Posted from TSR Mobile

Burp,

The more Israel kills the more political advantage Hamas gets.

Precisely. Hamas doesn't care about its civilians or about the blood of Palestinians being shed. All it cares about is diplomatic leverage. Disgusting.

To take down Hamas or to take down tunnels or to take down rockets, whatever they eliminate it would be just temporarily. hamas, the rockets and the tunnels would be up in no time.

That depends. They don't seem to be ****ing around this time. Hamas will be scared ****less for at least a decade after Israel is done with them.

Hamas won't accept a ceasefire until Israel end the blockade. Rockets will be fired and more Palestinians will be kil- martyred. Chirp all you like, but very soon Israel will lose the sympathy of the world.

Or the world will see that Hamas is the obstinate one, and realize that the death of every Gazan is the fault of Hamas because it tries to set conditions when it's the losing side. Whoever has heard of such a thing?

Gazains live in Gaza not by choice. What preceded everything? Israel's occupation and driving out of Palestinians. Even if you debunk this you cannot deny that before 1940 there were less than 100k people in Gaza. Now its almost two million. Whatever you say, these Palestinians have a right to go back to their homeland. To Israel.

Gazans wanted to live in Gaza without Israelis and had the Israelis kicked out. Now they want to live in Israel WITH the Israelis? Why should the Israelis let them into Israel, when the Gazans refused to let the Israelis into Gaza since 2005? Israeli homes and settlements were destroyed to please them and the result was Hamas.

Until then rockets will be fired , civilians will be martyed and Israel will continue to hunt for tunnels.

There is a reason why Hitler did what he did.

Yeah, he was a psychotic moron. He also murdered homosexuals, gypsies, slavs, disabled people and anyone who was not a straight, healthy Aryan German he could get his hands on. If you think Arabs would have been spared, you're sadly mistaken.

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Yes they accept the ceasefire. And broke it very quickly.

And are you scared of rocket sirens? You know what they are right?

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12:22 p.m. A total of 15 rockets and mortar shells have been fired into Israel since the cease-fire took effect at 8 a.m, according to Israel Radio. Seven rockets were successfully intercepted by Iron Dome.


Despicable entity.

A prelude to a rocket strike, yes.

You seem to think that the Americans still "control" the region when in fact, they hardly seem to.

Let's take a look:

North Africa is virtually out of American hands with the exception of Egypt whom they only keep onside because of Israel.

Syria's gone to hell as has Iraq, Iran and Yemen

Divide and conquer, this is an example of divide and conquer. These countries will not be strong and united and they will not present a threat to the USA. Let's not forget the US has dabbled with at least two of these previously.

Qatar has a lot pumped in the US economy

Why do you think that is?

Turkey is up and coming and relations have somewhat frozen.
​True, though it being a democracy I blame that on the current President. The last one was keen on seeing Turkey in the EU, this one not so much. So, there will always be changing relations with Turkey.

UAE seem to be mostly neutral.

Specifically the UAE is heavily influenced by the West, including the US. It can't afford to fall out of favor with the West because much of its trade and sustenance (at least when it comes to Dubai) is dependent on the West. Thus, it'll never do much to support Israel, yes, because that would be suicide, but it also won't do much to support Hamas.

That being said, it has sent plenty of humanitarian aid to Gaza.

However, it has also cracked down on Muslim Brotherhood factions within the UAE, as well as any other signs of terrorism. Plus, it has stated that if a peace deal with Israel and Palestine is achieved, it will resume diplomatic relations with Israel.

Jordan doesn't seem too friendly with the US.

That just leaves Saudi Arabia.



The fact is that, unless they want to go around engineering coups of democratically elected governments like they did in the 1950's and 1960's, they are helpless to watch the rise of these nations come into their own.

​Many of the countries in the Middle East are not democracies. They don't need to be pulling coups to create unrest and division.

The US needs a divided Middle East under constant conflict. To them, that is what Israel is. As long as Israel is there, it will always be an eyesore to countries in the Middle East. Division and conflict won't cease.

Again, security as well.

As I said, regardless of what America or Israel try to do, short of nuking the region, Israel will cease to exist within the next 30-40 years.

Is Hamas a unified group? Since the Israeli's have now said they accept the 3 teenage boys killed may not have been killed by Hamas but a rogue splinter group/cell, is Hamas as a governing entity really in control of all the men with rockets scattered around the place? It seems illogical for Hamas to willingly break it so quickly tbh.

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