The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

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No one can possibly know what would happen unless it happens so there is no right answer to that question however I imagine if the two sides can never have peace a one nation is the likely solution however I agree with you to an extent. If Israel controlled it they probably would be second class citizens, and equally if Palestine controlled Israel the Jewish population would be second class citizens as we can see with the minority Jewish, Christian and other small populations in the Arab world.

we come to the same situation once again what can be done for long term peace?

The whole region is hell and I hate to say it but the few Arab countries who have westernised as you might like to put it are the more stable and democratic ones but that brings in the whole USA thing.

Just tell me what should be done, I actually want your input, please inform me because it's ok to criticise but you need an aftermath solution.

So you want us to tell you what would happen if x,y,z happens first, but if we ask you to do the same thing you say "idk".
If you won't tell us what you think will happen if Israel re-occupies the Gaza Strip and treats it the same way it does the West Bank why should we tell you what we think will happen if Israel withdraws?

Ludicrous how? Are you saying Isreal can't find and destroy a rocket launcher in a field? Seriously?

Now go and draw on to that map the totally not illegal 3km buffer zone which I'm pretty sure Israel will be kind enough to attack anything they think could possibly be military if it enters and you're left more or less just with the patch in the south west corner. Now, look at ranges, targets, distances. Come back when you learn how to measure a distance and frantically look on wikipedia for the information you need

Have you not been following the discussion? Besides the buffer zone, they have farm land which they rent to people. Why not use THAT to fire their rockets from?


If you can show me how firing from Iran and firing from the moon yield the same results.

What are you on about?


Well done, you have finally managed to find something that is actually from Hamas. But where in it does it say they must stay in their homes? After all, the claims that are consistently made are that Hamas FORCES people to stay in their homes to act as human shields. Does that mean if I were a member of staff in a bank being robbed by armed robbers, if I advised people to stay where they are then I'm forcing them to stay and using them as human Shields?

Those who had immigrated from Germany and Russia should be given back their lands and if they want a Jewish State in Europe, then that should be facilitated.

The Jews were fostered upon the Arabs and now the Arabs should return them.

I await a vehement hyperbolic reply....

Nice job taking one statement out of context from my entire post.

I like how people are trying to downsize the issue by saying that 1,500 is small relative to 1.5 million as if that's any sort of justification. Anywho, with the blockade it's certainly comparable to an open air prison since of course there is no routes to escape what we know as Palestine. With regards to the food situation, I'm pretty sure I've read articles regarding the Israeli military allocating food by calculating a strict amount of calories per person per day and only letting that amount in, as well as banning foods they regard as dangerous (they banned pasta for goodness sake wtf). Clearly, this type of ghettoisation of Gaza is sick, and to the people supporting it well yeah, you're sick in the head too.

My entire post that YOU responded to was making the point that moving rockets into the open means the launcher will be immediately destroyed by Isreal, so it is effectively asking the Gazans to unilaterally disarm with no concessions from Israel.. It is at the very centre of the issue and entirely in context. Your deflection is, however, noted.

Thank you for your solution

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Land_of_Israel#Under_Islamic_rule_.28638.E2.80.931099.29

The link covers the relationship between the Jewish world and Israel so to say the Jews were fostered upon the Arabs is inaccurate. There was already an established Jewish population and all that was done was a political transfer of powers after WW2 following British rule over the region. But hey it's quite an interesting read if you want to look over it. You will find the Arab account of events and the widely accepted account of events to be very contrasting due mainly to the fact of the culture clash.

Is it not just getting on your nerves. Not once have I asked these guys for sources of information and yet they want us surfing the internet because they are either lazy or playing a game. How hard is it for them to read a piece of history text on Israel or the conflict from Wikipedia and in an instance they have an educated account on the matter.

The point you made when you took my point out of context was already addressed in my full post. You took it out of context and it made it look like i had not addressed the point, when I had. Now go back and read my full post, respond to that, and then we can continue the debate.

I will not keep repeating myself. That's what you pro-Palestinian lot do, don't you? You just make people repeat themselves hoping they'll get tired of saying the same thing so you'll 'win' by not having to respond to anything. Very similar tactic to tsr.

I'm nobody's lot, you judgemental fool. I have made a couple posts on this issue and you pigeonhole me? Ever wonder why Israel is losing friends like me? My point was not dealt with in your post since you are still unwilling to say whether Israel can instantly destroy rocket launchers out in the open. I won't be holding my breath - should you ever decide to answer, we can debate further.

Because the difference between you guys and me is that you keep saying Israel should withdraw and Israel should stop. So ok you told me what Israel should and so what do you expect to happen following your proposal. Only stupid people proceed with actions without considering the aftermath so I am asking you if you think Israel should stop what do you expect from it.

A digger attack, an IDF soldier shooting and now an "incident" near the Gaza border...