The Liverpool FC Thread XII

The truth, Deshi, is that the only way you can keep players off those clubs is money and trophies.

And we're going through a bad few weeks right now, but Rodgers is dat guy still.

None of our players will be at threat next summer anyway.

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Lovren cost 20, Mangala cost a reported 30+ but with shady payments taking it upto 40+, not really in the same ball park.

Anyway we have our Mangala, only Brendan seems incapable of making a good player out of Sakho.

I know but when he comes in looking solid like that I'd rather have just bought 1 35m defender then 2 15-20m ones who look ****e. We really don't spend our money effectively, not like we couldn't have coughed up an extra 10m anyway.

It will never happen anyway, against our spending ethic and that. The club would rather try turn Lovren into a 30m defender then to outright buy one.

The same way they bought an English striker who had one good half a season for £35 million?

If Lambert doesn't start tomorrow, questions have got to be asked about why we've even signed him.

What happened to Moreno is a dodgy fullback?

Anyway Markovic has barely started at all. Same with Emre Can. Looking at it Liverpool need to gel, he can't just draft all the new signings in one game, look how that worked out against Aston Villa. When they gel then Markovic can get a run of games. Him and Sterling flanking Sturridge/Balotelli allows for good rotation. I think Markovic will still hit it off this season, but you won't see the best of him yet.

If Lambert doesn't start tomorrow, questions have got to be asked about why we've even signed him.

Moreno is a dodgy fullback. He's good offensively though, and well worth a squad place. Same as he's always been. [Rojo is a dodgy fullback too] Btw, bring it on about yesterday. Well deserved. (Not that the ref, linesman and everything else didn't conspire against us. Our subs were ****ing horrific too.)

Fair play. Yeah got screwed over with the goal but Mark Clattenburg is a terrible ref.

Hopefully Shaw will get in the team so people will see the shaw vs Moreno comparisons properly. Same for Filipe.

First goal was out of play too. Could so easily have been 3-0 with them down and out, plus falcao's crossbar. Still, zero excuse for a collapse like that from 3-2 to 5-3, even with those goals. The subs were absolutely pointless and any trolling from you guys/liverpool fans would be well ****ing deserved.

And yea, not entirely sure why Rojo is starting as a fullback instead of Shaw with Evans/Smalling in DC We'll see.

Moreno is a dodgy fullback. He's good offensively though, and well worth a squad place. Same as he's always been. [Rojo is a dodgy fullback too] Btw, bring it on about yesterday. Well deserved. (Not that the ref, linesman and everything else didn't conspire against us. Our subs were ****ing horrific too.)

Tbh I'm only trolling because of the reaction from yesterday, also at Old_Simon trying to say that United have done well defensively this season and I said you haven't had a test yet, as soon as that happens your defence will be exposed. Surprise surprise he's nowhere to be seen. Least you're taking the hit so fairplay.

I can only assume that Shaw needs a bit of fitness issues. Smalling and Evans are atrocious players, Blackett was an unfortunate casualty but tbh when you're relying on him to do the goods there is a problem. I've said for ages that Van Gaal will be sacked in a matter of months, his only saving grace is how badly Liverpool are doing as well, although their fixture list has invariably been harder.

I haven't lost faith in Rodger's and I think he could still be dat guy to win the title for us finally, yeah I think he could be a bit more tactful in the transfer market but he has a vision and philosophy that clearly works (last season we saw that), it's just building a squad that can do that. This isn't even a knee-jerk, even nearing Rafa's end when Alonso and Mascherano left you just got that feeling that we're a bunch of nearly men unable to sustain a good period of success because as soon as we develop our players to that level they just leave

None of our players will be a threat next summer because none of them are at that level yet, but if Sterling keeps up his form and keeps improving you just know he will be a target sooner rather then later if we don;t challenge for the league and win trophies.

Moreno isn't dodgy at all.

Moreno doesn't have a clue about defensive positioning, when to be back, or when to be forwards. He also doesn't have the pace to cover up those positional weaknesses, and gets exposed by anybody vaguely good.

Somebody just show him some Moreno pace gifs from our last few games please. I'd be surprised if there's a quicker fullback in the league, he is ****ing RAPID.

Defensive positioning is just fine, from what we've seen and a few games last year/all touches videos. Naive at times running up to overload his flanks but that's an understandable and comparatively minor flaw for someone his age.