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Need some help with the following question:

The radius of a circular disc is increasing at a constant rate.of 0.003cm s^-1. Find the rate at which the areais increasing when the radius is 20cm.

How do I go about doing this? I think you have to use the chain rule but not sure what goes where?
Original post by Super199
Need some help with the following question:

The radius of a circular disc is increasing at a constant rate.of 0.003cm s^-1. Find the rate at which the areais increasing when the radius is 20cm.

How do I go about doing this? I think you have to use the chain rule but not sure what goes where?


dAdt=drdt×dAdr\frac{dA}{dt}=\frac{dr}{dt} \times \frac{dA}{dr}. We want to find dAdt\frac{dA}{dt} and you're given drdt\frac{dr}{dt}. Does that help?
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Original post by Chlorophile
dAdt=drdt×dAdr\frac{dA}{dt}=\frac{dr}{dt} \times \frac{dA}{dr}. We want to find dAdt\frac{dA}{dt} and you're given drdt\frac{dr}{dt}. Does that help?

Is it A= pi*r^2
dA/dr= 2pi*r. Then just sub in 20 for r?
Original post by Super199
Is it A= pi*r^2
dA/dr= 2pi*r. Then just sub in 20 for r?


Yes, once you've multiplied the dr/dt by dA/dr.
Reply 4
Original post by Chlorophile
Yes, once you've multiplied the dr/dt by dA/dr.


Right got it cheers :smile:
Reply 5
I have another question if someone can help me with :smile:

A viscous liquid is poured on to a flat surface. It forms a circular patch whose area grows at a steady rate of 5cm^2 s^-1. Find, in terms of pi,

a) The radius of the patch 20 seconds after pouring has commenced

b) The rate of increase of the radius at this instance

I think I have dA/dt= 5
Area = pi*r^2

So dA/dr = 2pi*r

I think it's dA/dt= dA/dr * dr/dt

But then I got stuck and don't know how to do part a? Should be able to do part b with the information from part a.

Thanks :smile:
Reply 6
Original post by Super199
I have another question if someone can help me with :smile:

A viscous liquid is poured on to a flat surface. It forms a circular patch whose area grows at a steady rate of 5cm^2 s^-1. Find, in terms of pi,

a) The radius of the patch 20 seconds after pouring has commenced

b) The rate of increase of the radius at this instance

I think I have dA/dt= 5
Area = pi*r^2

So dA/dr = 2pi*r

I think it's dA/dt= dA/dr * dr/dt

But then I got stuck and don't know how to do part a? Should be able to do part b with the information from part a.

Thanks :smile:


rate of 5 cm2 every minute means every minute the area gets 5 cm2 larger (steadily)
thus in 20 seconds we know the area (assuming t=0, area =0)
then area of circle ...
then radius =

[Did you look at the resource I pointed out yesterday?]
Reply 7
Original post by TeeEm
rate of 5 cm2 every minute means every minute the area gets 5 cm2 larger (steadily)
thus in 20 seconds we know the area (assuming t=0, area =0)
then area of circle ...
then radius =

[Did you look at the resource I pointed out yesterday?]

Isn't it per second?

So in 20 seconds you would get 100cm^2?

Then 100=area
Rearrange for r?

I was on my phone yesterday so couldn't use the link. But it doesn't seem to be working, do you mind sending it again? I seem to be getting a 404 error.
Reply 8
Original post by Super199
Isn't it per second?

So in 20 seconds you would get 100cm^2?

Then 100=area
Rearrange for r?

I was on my phone yesterday so couldn't use the link. But it doesn't seem to be working, do you mind sending it again? I seem to be getting a 404 error.


sorry, yes it is per second ...

LINK

http://madasmaths.com/archive_maths_booklets_standard_topics_various.html

FILE NAME

related_rates_of_change

I just checked no error in mine
Reply 9
Original post by TeeEm
sorry, yes it is per second ...

LINK

http://madasmaths.com/archive_maths_booklets_standard_topics_various.html

FILE NAME

related_rates_of_change

I just checked no error in mine

Got it this time haha :smile: Cheers
Reply 10
Original post by Super199
Got it this time haha :smile: Cheers


with your question you are on the right track.

there are several questions like the one you describe.
enlarge the PDF to see answer in the photo-frame

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