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Out of interest what was your lower back problem and how did you sort it?

Sciatica iirc?

I see low bar squats and everything in here!
Original post by Angry cucumber
Out of interest what was your lower back problem and how did you sort it?

Sciatica iirc?

I see low bar squats and everything in here!


It was just really bad pumps. Not like lower back pump from doing insane volume, lower back pump from simply bending down, which as you can imagine made training a nightmare.

I had sciatica when I was younger, to the point where it was agony to walk and going over speed bumps in a car would be incredibly painful... I think that's left scar tissue and perhaps there are some underlying problems from that. I have a huge permanent knot in the right side of my lower back, can't get rid of it, if I massage it for 20+mins it will shrink and then be back to full size the day after. Not sure if the two are connected.

I've got pretty poor flexibility/mobility, my hips are incredibly tight and knotted which is probably half the problem with my lower back.

Those are the underlying problems and at best my lower back is a bit iffy, if my oestrogen gets too high I carry too much water and I get insane lower back pumps, although that's all under control now, dialled everything in.

I take nurofen + before I squat/deadlift, which allows me to get through the workout without getting back pumps, which in turn has allowed me to lift enough to strengthen my core and probably correct a few imbalances, which is helping.
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Original post by Scoobiedoobiedo
It was just really bad pumps. Not like lower back pump from doing insane volume, lower back pump from simply bending down, which as you can imagine made training a nightmare.

I had sciatica when I was younger, to the point where it was agony to walk and going over speed bumps in a car would be incredibly painful... I think that's left scar tissue and perhaps there are some underlying problems from that. I have a huge permanent knot in the right side of my lower back, can't get rid of it, if I massage it for 20+mins it will shrink and then be back to full size the day after. Not sure if the two are connected.

I've got pretty poor flexibility/mobility, my hips are incredibly tight and knotted which is probably half the problem with my lower back.

Those are the underlying problems and at best my lower back is a bit iffy, if my oestrogen gets too high I carry too much water and I get insane lower back pumps, although that's all under control now, dialled everything in.

I take nurofen + before I squat/deadlift, which allows me to get through the workout without getting back pumps, which in turn has allowed me to lift enough to strengthen my core and probably correct a few imbalances, which is helping.


Fairs, nice to know you know how to get around it!

I get lower back pumps when doing high rep doing rows (i.e. 5+) like today, getting into the bench arch was interesting..

I was unaware oestrogen makes you hold oestrogen, interesting. It enhaces your immune system though... swings and roundabouts? :tongue:
Wednesday 19th November 2014

Squats -
20kg X 5, 5
60kg X 5, 5
80kg X 1
100kg X 1
110kg X 1
120kg X 1
130kg X 1
140kg X 1
150kg X 1
160kg X 1
170kg X 1
175kg X 1 [videod]

Paused bench press -
20kg X 10
60kg X 5
70kg X 1
80kg X 1
90kg X 1
100kg X 1
105kg X 1
110kg X 1
115kg X 1
120kg X 1
125kg X 1
130kg X 1
135kg X 1
140kg X 1
142.5kg X 1(PB) [videod]

touch and go bench -
120kg X 7 (PB) [videod]
100kg X 13

Hadn't planned to bench press at all, chuffed with two PBs. Had planned to deadlift although my lower back was iffy so gave it a miss, want it nice and fresh for maxing on Saturday.

VIDS: *Squat vid isn't the best, camera was a bit too close.





Your bench. ****.
Original post by illusionz
Your bench. ****.


Makes up a little bit for my squat.
Saturday 22nd November 2014

Deadlift [beltless]
60kg X 5
100kg X 3
120kg X 1
140kg X 1
160kg X 1
180kg X 1
195kg X 1
210kg X 1
225kg X 1
240kg X 1
255kg X 1(PB)

Low bar squat [beltless]

60kg X 5, 5
80kg X 1
100kg X 1
120kg X 3
130kg X 3
140kg X 3
145kg X 3

255 was slow and grindy as anything, had zero power or explosiveness off the floor, was just a painfully slow rep throughout. Lockout was ok, held for a few seconds at the top. Pretty disappointed with it really as I was expecting a relatively easy 255, just an off session I think, nothing much to worry about. Warmup sets felt incredibly heavy, 210 felt like an absolute tonne, 225 felt like 250 last week and 240 felt significantly heavier than 250 last week. CNS just didn't fire I think, plus I didn't eat much yesterday, zero appetite. Managed to rip my hands open on 210 somehow, then 250 shredded them, blood on the bar and all over my shorts... Just one of those days.
tfw disappointed almost 6 plates feels hard
Original post by illusionz
tfw disappointed almost 6 plates feels hard


This.

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tfw disappointed almost 6 plates feels hard


Stupidly high standards I suppose. :tongue: was a case of being pissed off that it wasn't as "easy" as I expected. Was expecting a tough but smooth and fast(ish) rep, ended up with a 9.9 RPE eye ball popping grind. Ahh well :biggrin:

I'm hoping it was just a case of not eating enough the day before and not a case of being burned out.

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Monday 24th November 2014

Squats -
60kg 3x5
80kg x 5
100kg x 5
120kg x 5

Bench press -
60kg 5x5

OHP -
40kg x 5
50kg x 5, 5, 10, 10, 8
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Wednesday 26th November

Squat -
60kg X 5
80kg X 3
100kg 2X1
110kg X 1
120kg X 1
130kg X 1
140kg 2X1
150kg X 1
130kg 5, 5, 12

OHP -
20kg X 12
40kg X 5
50kg X 5
60kg X 5
65kg X 5
70kg X 5
75kg 3X3

Speed pulls -
60kg 3X3
100kg 3X3
120kg 3X3

Lower back is still destroyed from maxing my deadlift Saturday, today was torture, not sure how much is stress from low bar and how much is fatigue from Saturday.
Tbh you'll reach a point where you can't max your deadlift every week. How it works for you currently I don't really know but in kills my entire body for days to max a deadlift.

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Tbh you'll reach a point where you can't max your deadlift every week. How it works for you currently I don't really know but in kills my entire body for days to max a deadlift.

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Pretty much at that point now. Not going to max it until xmas now. Focusing on squatting more, as well as deficit deads and speed pulls.
Saturday 29th November 2014

Squats -

60kg X 5, 5, 5
80kg X 3
100kg X 1
120kg X 1
130kg X 1
140kg X 1
150kg X 1
160kg X 1
170kg X 1
180kg X 1
140kg X 5, 5

Speed pulls -
60kg X 3, 3
100kg X 3, 3
140kg X 3, 3
160kg X 3, 3

Deadlift -
180kg X 1
200kg X 1
220kg X 1
Original post by Scoobiedoobiedo
Monday 24th November 2014

Squats -
60kg 3x5
80kg x 5
100kg x 5
120kg x 5

Bench press -
60kg 5x5

OHP -
40kg x 5
50kg x 5, 5, 10, 10, 8
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Did u just semi-warm up and go home. Are you taking the piss with this workout
Original post by silent ninja
Did u just semi-warm up and go home. Are you taking the piss with this workout


Hadn't planned to lift that day as I was tired from deadlifting a few days before. Went with my GF to show her how to lift, was just killing time/dicking around while I waited for her really.
Saturday 6th December 2014

Deadlift [beltless] -
60kg X 10
100kg X 5
140kg X 3
160kg X 1
180kg X 1
200kg X 1
220kg X 1
240kg X 1
260kg X 1 (PB)
230kg X 2 (PB)
160kg X 3, 3, 3

Chuffed with 260. It was heavy (obvs), but fast off the floor, slowed down quite a bit near lock out, but locked it out ok and held for a few seconds. Also the first time deadlifting without rolling the bar. Much smoother than the grindfest that was 255 a few weeks ago.
230 X 2 is technically a PB, aim was 230 X 3 but couldn't get the 3rd rep past my knees, had about 3-4 minutes between 260 and 230, which probably wasn't long enough, happy though.
Very very very nice

Back of peace

Video it?
Original post by Angry cucumber
Very very very nice

Back of peace

Video it?


Nope, should have. Had my camera with me to record but was just going with the flow lifting with a couple of guys I deadlift with on Saturdays.

Fun fact. I'm the first person to hit a 6plate deadlift in my gym in 6-7 years.

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