Is Paying For Sex Immoral,Are Men That Do It Losers?

Stating my case, with conviction, and challenging the stated opinions of others, is not forcing anything/anyone

What makes you think that? The quoted figures are drawn from reasonably robust study survey statistical data e.g. one sample of 6,000 methinks

A third of one percent my dear e.g. 1 woman in every 300 is a sex worker

It would be hypocritical e.g. for someone to say that something is moral but yet find it uncomfortable for someone they are closely connected with to engage in that something, partly on moral grounds

I haven't accused anyone of lying

You said you’d be ok with it. In English this generally means you would find it ok = acceptable. If something bothers us then we would say we are not ok with it. Perhaps your intended meaning got lost in translation

Agreed, but that’s just an excuse for incorrect English really. We all make mistakes, don’t worry

Would you respect me more, as a man, and your adversary, if I moved easily, and hastily/artificially hid away my sense of self assurance? You just said yourself, one should encourage people to express themselves naturally, so I would expect you to be consistent and not attempt to stifle my massive ego

Sweetie, with all due respect you’re a pussycat, so you may be as harsh as you like, it will sway me not

Liberalism is comforting, but just like a comfort blanket, sooner or later one has to wake up, grow up, toughen up, and leave it behind when you venture out into the big, ugly world

What, and you are? I know/know of plenty married people, and enough about society, to know that yours is a false dichotomy; so, probably, do you - in which case you're just being intellectually dishonest (perhaps even with yourself)

Stating my case, with conviction, and challenging the stated opinions of others, is not forcing anything/anyone

What makes you think that? The quoted figures are drawn from reasonably robust study survey statistical data e.g. one sample of 6,000 methinks

A third of one percent my dear e.g. 1 woman in every 300 is a sex worker

It would be hypocritical e.g. for someone to say that something is moral but yet find it uncomfortable for someone they are closely connected with to engage in that something, partly on moral grounds

I haven't accused anyone of lying

You said you’d be ok with it. In English this generally means you would find it ok = acceptable. If something bothers us then we would say we are not ok with it. Perhaps your intended meaning got lost in translation

Agreed, but that’s just an excuse for incorrect English really. We all make mistakes, don’t worry

Would you respect me more, as a man, and your adversary, if I moved easily, and hastily/artificially hid away my sense of self assurance? You just said yourself, one should encourage people to express themselves naturally, so I would expect you to be consistent and not attempt to stifle my massive ego

Sweetie, with all due respect you’re a pussycat, so you may be as harsh as you like, it will sway me not

Liberalism is comforting, but just like a comfort blanket, sooner or later one has to wake up, grow up, toughen up, and leave it behind when you venture out into the big, ugly world

What, and you are? I know/know of plenty married people, and enough about society, to know that yours is a false dichotomy; so, probably, do you - in which case you're just being intellectually dishonest (perhaps even with yourself)

So you think that...



.. and ..



.. i.e. you know "a lot" of the people you say are forcing women to be prostitutes, but you're not prepared to do anything about it?

And it's the clients who are immoral?!?

You're welcome, I guess. There’s nothing to be gained from trying to catch people out on their English, so long as we all understand each other - if I correct people then it is typically constructive criticism

No, just a statement of fact. You’re a sweet young thing and I’m a hard old bastard, hence, relatively speaking, you’re a pussycat

Judge away, I don’t mind, but be careful of ‘playing the man not the ball’ as we say – best to focus on content, rather than style, in discussion

You were trying to make prostitution seem relatively free next to an unhappy marriage. This is a false dichotomy for a few reasons:

1) Women are no longer nearly as trapped in such marriages as once was the case (hence my Victorian pun);

2) There’s far more to life than those two relatively extreme scenarios, so insinuating that it is 'the better of two evils' is a pretty redundant point

3) 'Better the devil you know', in some cases

yeah the clients are lowlives.

Lol. I only talked about me, in the place of the daughter. Cannot recall any refference to the mother, or other women. Mind showing those to me? I specifically didn't adress them because it wasn't asked and also because I knew that something like this could happen. I hate it to the core when people jump to conclusions just because they can and don't care enough to pay attention before they speak, so I couldn't wait more to shut the door in the face of someone like this. No, you have no argument. Two different sides, two different views, you can't lump them toghether bcause 'can'

You're welcome, I guess. There’s nothing to be gained from trying to catch people out on their English, so long as we all understand each other - if I correct people then it is typically constructive criticism

No, just a statement of fact. You’re a sweet young thing and I’m a hard old bastard, hence, relatively speaking, you’re a pussycat

Judge away, I don’t mind, but be careful of ‘playing the man not the ball’ as we say – best to focus on content, rather than style, in discussion

You were trying to make prostitution seem relatively free next to an unhappy marriage. This is a false dichotomy for a few reasons:

1) Women are no longer nearly as trapped in such marriages as once was the case (hence my Victorian pun);

2) There’s far more to life than those two relatively extreme scenarios, so insinuating that it is 'the better of two evils' is a pretty redundant point

3) 'Better the devil you know', in some cases

We aim to please

Me too

It says on my profile

Well, it's true to say that I don't look down on you any more than I look down on other young mortals


Me too, although I always have to try to remember what I was like in my younger years (a bit of an idiot, in truth), and not set quite such high standards for other young people!

The key to many a girl's heart..


Good girl. Gently disarmed, how cute

Men who pay for sex should be ashamed of themselves.

Seems no matter what the topic, or the initial pitch of my rhetoric, I invariably end up reverting to type. Apparently I have a problem

Exploitation of women should be stopped. Males who use prostitutes need to be locked up in every country.

All you have to remember is all the rich rockstars, sport stars, movie stars, rich businessmen...all the people that can get women all shag escorts.

These escorts that are charging £500-£1000 a night are basically being shagged by white middle class married men...their wives stop providing them with regular sex, they get fat etc etc

Basically the people that shag escorts are your dream husbands.

If women actually knew what men got up to they would be appalled. Watch Wolf of wall street and you will see what male mentality is. Footballers have that mentality, movie stars do, rock stars do(all these are from different backgrounds)...all men do, it is just they have the money to go through with the lifestyle.

What chance do you have? You will have to marry so far down and have a husband with really low testosterone levels who doesn't excite you.


For someone who is friends with middle class white guys who are married with children with top masters degrees and 50-80k jobs and know exactly what they get up to. I could go on explaining further...but most will just want to be in denial over it.

The market for paid sex is not as big as you suggest.
The vast majority of men do not pay for sex, if they did there would be far more prostitutes than there are.