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Original post by Hollywood Hogan
You don't attend Oxford.
Yes, I'm pretty sure I do. At least they haven't mentioned anything to the contrary while I've been in tutorials, seminars, lectures or staying in my college accommodation.
Original post by Hollywood Hogan
Did you attend the ex-poly or something? Bristol uni is easily a UK top 10.
I attended the Russell group one mate.
I only attend the Russell group ones, not the ex-poly ones like yourself.
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My top ten would be
1. Cambridge
2. Oxford
3. Imperial
4. LSE
5. Warwick
6. UCL
7. Durham
8. St Andrews
9. Kings
10. Edinburgh/ Nottingham
Admittedly, I have failed to remain fully impartial because I have firmed Warwick.
1. Cambridge
2. Oxford
3. Imperial
4. LSE
5. Warwick
6. UCL
7. Durham
8. St Andrews
9. Kings
10. Edinburgh/ Nottingham
Admittedly, I have failed to remain fully impartial because I have firmed Warwick.
Original post by Magnus Taylor
My top ten would be
1. Cambridge
2. Oxford
3. Imperial
4. LSE
5. Warwick
6. UCL
7. Durham
8. St Andrews
9. Kings
10. Edinburgh/ Nottingham
Admittedly, I have failed to remain fully impartial because I have firmed Warwick.
1. Cambridge
2. Oxford
3. Imperial
4. LSE
5. Warwick
6. UCL
7. Durham
8. St Andrews
9. Kings
10. Edinburgh/ Nottingham
Admittedly, I have failed to remain fully impartial because I have firmed Warwick.
What subject are you reading, honourable gentlemen?
Original post by Marshall Taylor
What subject are you reading, honourable gentlemen?
I am reading History. My attraction to Warwick partly stemmed from its emphasis on Modern History. In fact this particularly appealed to my parents that removed the contempt for History they had hitherto.
Original post by Magnus Taylor
I am reading History. My attraction to Warwick partly stemmed from its emphasis on Modern History. In fact this particularly appealed to my parents that removed the contempt for History they had hitherto.
What do you specialise in?
Original post by Hollywood Hogan
KCL indeed is a good bet for the top 10 based on international standing, but the top graduate employers don't see it that way. Most people still regard it as a top 20 university.
Who are those people?
Sources?
Original post by Hollywood Hogan
The top 100 graduate employers targeted Nottingham, Manchester, Cambridge, Oxford the most last year.
http://www.highfliers.co.uk/download/GMReport14.pdf page 31.
The ten universities most-often targeted by Britain’s top graduate employers
in 2013-2014 are Nottingham, Manchester, Cambridge, Oxford, Bristol, Bath,
Warwick, Leeds, Imperial College London, and University College London.
http://www.highfliers.co.uk/download/GMReport14.pdf page 31.
The ten universities most-often targeted by Britain’s top graduate employers
in 2013-2014 are Nottingham, Manchester, Cambridge, Oxford, Bristol, Bath,
Warwick, Leeds, Imperial College London, and University College London.
At the end of the day, that means you have a chance to get yourself heard to a top employer before the titanic wave of graduates does it. But it is up to you to make the employers go wow, I want YOU.
Original post by Juichiro
Who are those people?
Sources?
Sources?
Students from the best schools and employers. I have already given two sources in this thread. Graduate High Fliers Research and the leading Sevenoaks Independent school. Neither targeted KCL as top 10.
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Original post by SmaugTheTerrible
*Warwick student detected*
Yes I'm absolutely serious and most people would agree. Warwick doesn't even come close to the prestige associated with LSE, UCL and Imperial. Those are Universities outside of Oxbridge. Warwick is very good in the UK, arguably even a top 10 on a good day but it is pretty much unknown outside the UK.
Yes I'm absolutely serious and most people would agree. Warwick doesn't even come close to the prestige associated with LSE, UCL and Imperial. Those are Universities outside of Oxbridge. Warwick is very good in the UK, arguably even a top 10 on a good day but it is pretty much unknown outside the UK.
Well, I guess you should go outside of the UK once in a while to get a glimpse of what people in other countries think of top British unis.
You're right -- I'm a Warwick grad myself. But I'm not British, and from where I come from, Warwick is seen very prestigious, surely in the league of those unis you've mentioned.
My Warwick undergrad degree led me to an Ivy school for my grad studies. Based on personal and anecdotal experience, Warwick is surely not seen short like what you tried to imply.
And, for the record, I passed up my LSE admissions (BSc Management) for the same program at Warwick. I'm pretty sure there were several others who did the same in my class alone. Two other American friends of mine chose Warwick over Imperial for maths.
Even King's has a better reputation due to its international recognition. Warwick on the other hand (as good as it is) doesn't leave much of a trace on the international level.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I don't find King's College prestigious. I agree it is respected. But I don't think it has the brand cache of Warwick brand name, specially in the business community.
As far as I am concern, people in the business world/banking/financial world are much more prestige conscious than people who work in different sectors, for they give more premium to their recruits. And, in the business community world-wide, Warwick is considered a prestigious brand name -- well within the top 20 in Europe. At places like Goldman Sachs, McKinsey, BofA, Blackstone, Citi, and the like, the Warwick name rings a bell. The top bulge bracket fimrs regularly send representatives to Warwick campus with a sole purpose of recruiting Warwick graduates. I don't think the same companies are doing the same thing for King's graduates. The top recruiters around the world haven't possibly even heard of King's, more so regard it as prestigious.
I mean you have to agree with me, LSE, UCL, Imperial pretty much destroy Warwick in every way.
Again, in the business community, Warwick is considered as respected as LSE, and Imperial, and is seen more respected than UCL.
Take the Financial Times' ranking for the best business program in the world. Warwick placed 25 globally, and was even ranked higher than UCLA, Cornell, Virginia, to name a few, considering these are some of the best schools for business in America.
http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2014
Original post by SmaugTheTerrible
I already stated its a very good University but the other poster suggested it is on the same level as LSE, UCL and Imperial which is simply not true. Warwick is unknown internationally unlike the others.
Excuse me. I have never suggested Warwick to be on the same level as LSE, UCL and Imperial in my previous post. I questioned you saying it isn't a top 10 uni in the UK.
I wanted to ask you which other unis in the UK are considered to be superior to Warwick, other than Oxford and Cambridge, because I sincerely couldn't name another university that is clearly superior to Warwick with the exemption of Oxbridge.
Granted LSE, Imperial and UCL are superior to Warwick, you should be able to name four more unis that are widely viewed to be superior to Warwick to be able to confidently dislodge Warwick off the top 10 list.
Original post by Citipati
I presume it would be better to hold them in "batches", as ones outcompete others frequently making it a draw.
Batch 1
Oxbridge
Batch 2
Durham. LSE. Imperial
Batch 3
St. Andrews. UCL. KCL.
Batch 4
Warwick. Bristol.
Batch 5
Exeter. Lancaster. Edinburgh.
Batch 6
Manchester. Birmingham. Rest of Russell group.
I have not seen them all, so my opinion is pretty flawed.
Batch 1
Oxbridge
Batch 2
Durham. LSE. Imperial
Batch 3
St. Andrews. UCL. KCL.
Batch 4
Warwick. Bristol.
Batch 5
Exeter. Lancaster. Edinburgh.
Batch 6
Manchester. Birmingham. Rest of Russell group.
I have not seen them all, so my opinion is pretty flawed.
I'd say this is the most accurate and batches are the only way in which we consider universities. However I do contest some small rankings,e.g. KCL, it's prestigious and offers a very high level of education across the board, but its entry standards which are especially lenient towards domestic students mean a breed of less academically gifted students go there when compared with other top unis, lowering (in my opinion, its ranking). Here is my view...
(the rankings in tiers are not in order)
Tier 1:
Oxford, Cambridge
Tier 2:
Imperial, UCL, LSE, Durham
Tier 3:
Warwick, Bristol, Exeter, St Andrews, KCL, York, Edinburgh, Manchester
Tier 4:
Lancaster, Loughborough, Bath, most of the rest of the Russell Group
Tier 5:
Surrey, Sussex, Queen Mary, Queens Belfast, Newcastle, Liverpool, UEA...
Original post by Sam280297
I wouldn't bother about the rankings.
Get into a russel group uni (A few exceptions), Lancaster, Surrey, St Andrews, Bath or UEA and you'll be fine
Get into a russel group uni (A few exceptions), Lancaster, Surrey, St Andrews, Bath or UEA and you'll be fine
Finally, the common sense brigade has arrived
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Original post by LadyMede
Thank God there are people who agree with me.
When I tell people the unis that I've applied to and they hear Surrey and Lancaster they laugh saying that they're sh*t because they're not in the russel group.
To be fair Surrey has the best graduate prospects for my course and Lancaster has some of the best research for my course which is a lot better than some russel groups
Original post by Sam280297
Thank God there are people who agree with me.
When I tell people the unis that I've applied to and they hear Surrey and Lancaster they laugh saying that they're sh*t because they're not in the russel group.
To be fair Surrey has the best graduate prospects for my course and Lancaster has some of the best research for my course which is a lot better than some russel groups
When I tell people the unis that I've applied to and they hear Surrey and Lancaster they laugh saying that they're sh*t because they're not in the russel group.
To be fair Surrey has the best graduate prospects for my course and Lancaster has some of the best research for my course which is a lot better than some russel groups
It is down to snobbery and tradition. Surrey is a very good university, but not excellent. Likewise Lancaster. The Russell Group is our Ivy League UK equivalent. Only Bath and St Andrews remain unaffected by not being in the RG, the rest get looked down on as second tier.
Original post by Sam280297
Thank God there are people who agree with me.
When I tell people the unis that I've applied to and they hear Surrey and Lancaster they laugh saying that they're sh*t because they're not in the russel group.
To be fair Surrey has the best graduate prospects for my course and Lancaster has some of the best research for my course which is a lot better than some russel groups
When I tell people the unis that I've applied to and they hear Surrey and Lancaster they laugh saying that they're sh*t because they're not in the russel group.
To be fair Surrey has the best graduate prospects for my course and Lancaster has some of the best research for my course which is a lot better than some russel groups
I've heard lots of good thing about Surrey . I applied to Lancaster as well in 2012/13, I thought it was lovely
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Original post by LadyMede
I've heard lots of good thing about Surrey . I applied to Lancaster as well in 2012/13, I thought it was lovely
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A pity both get thrown into the top 30 bracket, and excluded by the elite firms.
Original post by Morrisseya
Obviously it varies by subject. But, in your opinion, what are the top 10 universities in the UK, overall? (Re: prestige/job prospects/everything).
Warwick
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Original post by Mr. Roxas
Well, I guess you should go outside of the UK once in a while to get a glimpse of what people in other countries think of top British unis.
You're right -- I'm a Warwick grad myself. But I'm not British, and from where I come from, Warwick is seen very prestigious, surely in the league of those unis you've mentioned.
My Warwick undergrad degree led me to an Ivy school for my grad studies. Based on personal and anecdotal experience, Warwick is surely not seen short like what you tried to imply.
And, for the record, I passed up my LSE admissions (BSc Management) for the same program at Warwick. I'm pretty sure there were several others who did the same in my class alone. Two other American friends of mine chose Warwick over Imperial for maths.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I don't find King's College prestigious. I agree it is respected. But I don't think it has the brand cache of Warwick brand name, specially in the business community.
As far as I am concern, people in the business world/banking/financial world are much more prestige conscious than people who work in different sectors, for they give more premium to their recruits. And, in the business community world-wide, Warwick is considered a prestigious brand name -- well within the top 20 in Europe. At places like Goldman Sachs, McKinsey, BofA, Blackstone, Citi, and the like, the Warwick name rings a bell. The top bulge bracket fimrs regularly send representatives to Warwick campus with a sole purpose of recruiting Warwick graduates. I don't think the same companies are doing the same thing for King's graduates. The top recruiters around the world haven't possibly even heard of King's, more so regard it as prestigious.
Again, in the business community, Warwick is considered as respected as LSE, and Imperial, and is seen more respected than UCL.
Take the Financial Times' ranking for the best business program in the world. Warwick placed 25 globally, and was even ranked higher than UCLA, Cornell, Virginia, to name a few, considering these are some of the best schools for business in America.
http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2014
You're right -- I'm a Warwick grad myself. But I'm not British, and from where I come from, Warwick is seen very prestigious, surely in the league of those unis you've mentioned.
My Warwick undergrad degree led me to an Ivy school for my grad studies. Based on personal and anecdotal experience, Warwick is surely not seen short like what you tried to imply.
And, for the record, I passed up my LSE admissions (BSc Management) for the same program at Warwick. I'm pretty sure there were several others who did the same in my class alone. Two other American friends of mine chose Warwick over Imperial for maths.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I don't find King's College prestigious. I agree it is respected. But I don't think it has the brand cache of Warwick brand name, specially in the business community.
As far as I am concern, people in the business world/banking/financial world are much more prestige conscious than people who work in different sectors, for they give more premium to their recruits. And, in the business community world-wide, Warwick is considered a prestigious brand name -- well within the top 20 in Europe. At places like Goldman Sachs, McKinsey, BofA, Blackstone, Citi, and the like, the Warwick name rings a bell. The top bulge bracket fimrs regularly send representatives to Warwick campus with a sole purpose of recruiting Warwick graduates. I don't think the same companies are doing the same thing for King's graduates. The top recruiters around the world haven't possibly even heard of King's, more so regard it as prestigious.
Again, in the business community, Warwick is considered as respected as LSE, and Imperial, and is seen more respected than UCL.
Take the Financial Times' ranking for the best business program in the world. Warwick placed 25 globally, and was even ranked higher than UCLA, Cornell, Virginia, to name a few, considering these are some of the best schools for business in America.
http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2014
Original post by Mr. Roxas
Excuse me. I have never suggested Warwick to be on the same level as LSE, UCL and Imperial in my previous post. I questioned you saying it isn't a top 10 uni in the UK.
I wanted to ask you which other unis in the UK are considered to be superior to Warwick, other than Oxford and Cambridge, because I sincerely couldn't name another university that is clearly superior to Warwick with the exemption of Oxbridge.
Granted LSE, Imperial and UCL are superior to Warwick, you should be able to name four more unis that are widely viewed to be superior to Warwick to be able to confidently dislodge Warwick off the top 10 list.
I wanted to ask you which other unis in the UK are considered to be superior to Warwick, other than Oxford and Cambridge, because I sincerely couldn't name another university that is clearly superior to Warwick with the exemption of Oxbridge.
Granted LSE, Imperial and UCL are superior to Warwick, you should be able to name four more unis that are widely viewed to be superior to Warwick to be able to confidently dislodge Warwick off the top 10 list.
You are suggesting Warwick is on the same level as LSE, UCL though. You're going so far as to say it surpasses UCL regardless of the fact you're limiting this to the 'business world'. Even in the business world Warwick is NOT on the same level as UCL or LSE.
UCL is ranked 5th in the world, Warwick doesn't even come close. Again I am reiterating the fact that Warwick is very good but it certainly isn't as well known as the others. Warwick is unheard of in America and a lot of other countries. LSE especially has an unrivalled reputation in America. Imperial again trumps Warwick on the basis of prestige.
You turning down your offer at LSE doesn't make Warwick any better. LSE still holds it reputation. Maybe you should have gone with LSE, then we wouldn't have this pointless debate and you would be able to relax knowing your University has an international reputation.
Also you find it quite easy to say King's College isn't prestigious but when I take a non-biased view and say Warwick isn't on the same level as the G5 you're adamantly against the idea. The fact that you don't think KCL has the same brand recognition is purely your opinion.
I'm trying to take a far more objective view seeing as I attend none of the Universities in question.
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