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Graduate Entry Medicine: 2016 Entry

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Hi Guys!
SO glad this is up!

I'm a psychology undergrad at uni of Liverpool (2nd year).
i'm trying my best to stay at Liverpool, they have a guaranteed interview scheme for their graduate medicine course so fingers crossed! :smile: If not, i'm thinking Warwick, Swansea and maybe Newcastle?

Just for some background: I've been volunteering with a mental health charity for a year now. Aswell as working with a German Shepherd rescue for a year too (I know thats not entirely relevant or cool as shadowing a doctor). I'm a HCA at a private hospital and have worked in the medical records department too.


I feel so in the dark when it comes to applying. I assume we start the UCAS applications in August 2015?
I'm only considering 4 year grad courses as the 5 year is just impossible to fund (so it seems!)

Good luck everyone :smile:
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Original post by jones10


I feel so in the dark when it comes to applying. I assume we start the UCAS applications in August 2015?
I'm only considering 4 year grad courses as the 5 year is just impossible to fund (so it seems!)


How can you feel in the dark? They're all pretty open about the dates, in fact Medicine is pretty much the most transparent of application processes. Dates for this year can be found on UCAS and Acer for GAMSAT UK. Dates for 2016 entry will be much the same, give or take a day or two.

I'll also leave this here as I imagine it will be important for you chaps. Bear in mind funding has not been confirmed for 2016 GEM entry, in fact I've heard nothing for it as yet. Though nothing was really happening until Jan/Feb this year for 2015 entry so not all is lost.

Postgraduate loans of £10K announced by George Osborne

Mr Osborne said in statement in the House of Commons: “A year ago, I abolished the arbitrary cap on the total number of undergraduates at our universities. Today, I am going to revolutionise the support for our postgraduate students too. Until now there has been almost no financial support available, and the upfront costs of postgraduate degrees deter bright students from poorer backgrounds.

“So today, across all disciplines, we will make government-backed student loans of up to £10,000 available, for the first time ever, to all young people undertaking postgrad master’s degrees.”

Source



These will be available from 2016/17 and will be repaid concurrently with undergraduate loans, according to information released in the chancellor George Osborne's (pictured right) autumn statement on Wednesday. It is expected to benefit around 40,000 students.

However, BMA medical students committee joint deputy chair for finance Tom Rock said it was time that funding was also made available for graduate-entry medical students who are currently ineligible.

Source


BMA says medicine is included, but I've not heard this from George Osborne and so am skeptical. Though I imagine the BMA are much better informed that I.
Original post by Zorg
How can you feel in the dark? They're all pretty open about the dates, in fact Medicine is pretty much the most transparent of application processes. Dates for this year can be found on UCAS and Acer for GAMSAT UK. Dates for 2016 entry will be much the same, give or take a day or two.

I'll also leave this here as I imagine it will be important for you chaps. Bear in mind funding has not been confirmed for 2016 GEM entry, in fact I've heard nothing for it as yet. Though nothing was really happening until Jan/Feb this year for 2015 entry so not all is lost.

Postgraduate loans of £10K announced by George Osborne






BMA says medicine is included, but I've not heard this from George Osborne and so am skeptical. Though I imagine the BMA are much better informed that I.





Thank you! That sounds promising?
I dont know why i feel in the dark, i think i'm just confused about sort of what things you declare on your UCAS applicaton, you know with us in the middle of a degree? Do we still declare A levels, even though some unis dont care about them? etc

I felt like i had loads of support in college for personal statements and submitting it and now i kind of feel lost. its been years since i did a UCAS application LOL.

What degree are you doing Zorg??
Reply 103
Original post by jones10
Thank you! That sounds promising?
I dont know why i feel in the dark, i think i'm just confused about sort of what things you declare on your UCAS applicaton, you know with us in the middle of a degree? Do we still declare A levels, even though some unis dont care about them? etc

I felt like i had loads of support in college for personal statements and submitting it and now i kind of feel lost. its been years since i did a UCAS application LOL.

What degree are you doing Zorg??


Completed a Biology degree in 2012.
2015 application is in sig.

You put all qualifications on UCAS. All the information is out there. You just need to do a little research.
Reply 104
Original post by tw781
Psychology at University of York.


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Hey, I'm currently studying psychology as well. Random q but did you consider the clinical psychology doctorate pathway?
Reply 105
Currently a second year psychology student. Only decided this summer that I want to study medicine.
Ok GCSE, awful A levels and my degree choice has limited the medicals I can apply to. Think of applying to: St Georges, Warwick, Nottingham,Birmingham and Newcastle.
I'm currently in the processing of applying for clinical placements. I'm a SJA first aider and volunteer at a soup kitchen. I've applied to a hospice and local NHS trust for voluntary experience.
Original post by Ebuwa
Currently a second year psychology student. Only decided this summer that I want to study medicine.
Ok GCSE, awful A levels and my degree choice has limited the medicals I can apply to. Think of applying to: St Georges, Warwick, Nottingham,Birmingham and Newcastle.
I'm currently in the processing of applying for clinical placements. I'm a SJA first aider and volunteer at a soup kitchen. I've applied to a hospice and local NHS trust for voluntary experience.


Sounds like you've got lots of work experience under your belt :smile:!!
Reply 107
Original post by jones10
Sounds like you've got lots of work experience under your belt :smile:!!

I don't think I have enough!
oo I can see that you are studying psych too! I wanted to be an educational psychologist so did primary school placements and mentoring in first year then I realised it wasn't for me. I started uni and found out that my uni is the only one in the country with a clinical psychology doctorate so may apply to that too.
Can you explain the guaranteed interview at your university? What does that mean?
Original post by Ebuwa
I don't think I have enough!
oo I can see that you are studying psych too! I wanted to be an educational psychologist so did primary school placements and mentoring in first year then I realised it wasn't for me. I started uni and found out that my uni is the only one in the country with a clinical psychology doctorate so may apply to that too.
Can you explain the guaranteed interview at your university? What does that mean?



well especially with your school experience, that's working with people so sounds like more than enough to me? :smile:
Yeah at liverpool uni they do a guaranteed interview scheme. So if you study at the uni and your a first year, you can apply to be on the guaranteed interview scheme. As long as you get a 2.1 you get an interview. It doesn't guarantee a place but does get you to an interview :smile:!!

Do you not want to go for clinical psychology?
It really put me off, it's SO competitive, i know medicine is too but something about it put me off :/
Reply 109
Original post by jones10
well especially with your school experience, that's working with people so sounds like more than enough to me? :smile:
Yeah at liverpool uni they do a guaranteed interview scheme. So if you study at the uni and your a first year, you can apply to be on the guaranteed interview scheme. As long as you get a 2.1 you get an interview. It doesn't guarantee a place but does get you to an interview :smile:!!

Do you not want to go for clinical psychology?
It really put me off, it's SO competitive, i know medicine is too but something about it put me off :/


So guaranteed interviewed for medicine?

The pathway is great in the sense that you can go straight into the doctorate after graduation. However, there are a number of conditions such as being accepted unto the third year modules (only 30 places). Out of the 30 people only 7 are selected for the doctorate.
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Reply 110
Original post by Ebuwa
So guaranteed interviewed for medicine?

The pathway is great in the sense that you can go straight into the doctorate after graduation. However, there are a number of conditions such as being accepted into the third modules (only 30 places). Out of the 30 people only 7 are selected for the doctorate.


7 out of 30 is a little less than 4.5 applicants per post, I'd certainly take those odds compared to GEM!
Reply 111
Original post by Ebuwa
I don't think I have enough!
oo I can see that you are studying psych too! I wanted to be an educational psychologist so did primary school placements and mentoring in first year then I realised it wasn't for me. I started uni and found out that my uni is the only one in the country with a clinical psychology doctorate so may apply to that too.
Can you explain the guaranteed interview at your university? What does that mean?


Psych undergrad student too!


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I'm a Computer Science PhD student possibly interested in GEM once I've finished my course.

I have all As in GCSE sciences, maths and English, AAC at A level (in chemistry, maths, and ICT).

I got a high first in my CS degree from a russell group uni (just over 80%), and am now on a PhD program at the same university.

My extra-curriculars are nonexistent, and I also have no work or volunteering experience within healthcare. My knowledge of biology is also pretty weak since I stopped studying it after GCSE level.

From looking at the GEM wiki page, it seems I may be eligible for some universities, as long as I spice up my work experience (and extra-curriclulars?), and also get a very good UKCAT score.

I would appreciate it if anyone here could give me any recommendations on how beef up my application?

Obviously carrying out some volunteering experience over the next few years would be beneficial, and practising for the UKCAT would help. I'm also considering doing a PhD project related to medicine/healthcare, which is very possible given the field I have chosen to specialise in.

Maybe reading through an A level biology textbook could be beneficial as well? (I may even consider undergoing the A level if possible, and I have enough time, as long as there is no practical element like there was with chemistry...).

Finally, I guess I'm going to have to come up with some very good reasons as to why I wish to switch to medicine all of a sudden, and didn't go for it straight out of sixth form (hopefully the honest answer of being young and clueless will suffice!).

Can anyone offer any more words of wisdom?
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Original post by WhatDoWithLife
I'm a Computer Science PhD student possibly interested in GEM once I've finished my course.

I have all As in GCSE sciences, maths and English, AAC at A level (in chemistry, maths, and ICT).

I got a high first in my CS degree from a russell group uni (just over 80%), and am now on a PhD program at the same university.

My extra-curriculars are nonexistent, and I also have no work or volunteering experience within healthcare. My knowledge of biology is also pretty weak since I stopped studying it after GCSE level.

From looking at the GEM wiki page, it seems I may be eligible for some universities, as long as I spice up my work experience (and extra-curriclulars?), and also get a very good UKCAT score.

I would appreciate it if anyone here could give me any recommendations on how beef up my application?

Obviously carrying out some volunteering experience over the next few years would be beneficial, and practising for the UKCAT would help. I'm also considering doing a PhD project related to medicine/healthcare, which is very possible given the field I have chosen to specialise in.

Maybe reading through an A level biology textbook could be beneficial as well? (I may even consider undergoing the A level if possible, and I have enough time, as long as there is no practical element like there was with chemistry...).

Finally, I guess I'm going to have to come up with some very good reasons as to why I wish to switch to medicine all of a sudden, and didn't go for it straight out of sixth form (hopefully the honest answer of being young and clueless will suffice!).

Can anyone offer any more words of wisdom?



Considering that you're only just starting to consider GEM (and therefore will need info all the way from basics upwards), I'd suggest either reading through TSR GEM pages or on NewMediaMedicine combined with going through some med schools' entry requirements pages.. If however you're like me and would prefer one source that'll answer most, if not all your questions, then I'd recommend this book - http://themsag.com/guidebooks/graduate-entry-medicine-uk-book
They now seem to have an online version too.






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Original post by Nish-Med
Considering that you're only just starting to consider GEM (and therefore will need info all the way from basics upwards), I'd suggest either reading through TSR GEM pages or on NewMediaMedicine combined with going through some med schools' entry requirements pages.. If however you're like me and would prefer one source that'll answer most, if not all your questions, then I'd recommend this book - http://themsag.com/guidebooks/graduate-entry-medicine-uk-book
They now seem to have an online version too.






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Cheers, the TSR GEM pages have been useful, especially for individual university entry requirements. I'll check out the other resources you posted also.
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Final year BSc Chemistry at the moment. Looking to work for a year and apply for 2016 entry. I applied this year, but haven't been invited to interview anywhere, sadly.
Original post by WhatDoWithLife


Finally, I guess I'm going to have to come up with some very good reasons as to why I wish to switch to medicine all of a sudden, and didn't go for it straight out of sixth form (hopefully the honest answer of being young and clueless will suffice!).

Can anyone offer any more words of wisdom?


I'm intrigued, why the switch after all the dedication and hard work a PhD demands?! Saying this, from what I have read on admissions webpages, A101 admissions look very favourably on a PhD so get some decent clinical experience and you're all set! My advice is give the GAMSAT and UKCAT practice runs before it matters. Gauge your ability and see where you need to prep. If you ace them then you know you can apply anywhere and the GAMSAT is valid for two years.

Anyway, you're not alone in realising your calling later in life. I hated the thought of medicine at 16/17. Was convinced the only people that did it were utter douchebags. I became a makeup artist. Turns out the douchebags are EVERYWHERE. :rolleyes:
Reply 117
Does an independent paid medical research placement count towards the 70 hours of 'medicine experience' for Warwick in your opinion guys?

It was on novel cancer genomic treatment design work.

Thanks for your help.
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Original post by Chqr
Does an independent paid medical research placement count towards the 70 hours of 'medicine experience' for Warwick in your opinion guys?

It was on novel cancer genomic treatment design work.

Thanks for your help.


Your work ex at that placement sounds fantastic! I'd say it would count towards it as long as it is supplemented by a considerable amount of volunteer/ paid work in a healthcare/ nursing home sort of a setting, as your research work will provide evidence of scientific knowledge and experience, but wouldn't do anything to show your commitment in a caring role which is crucial for most, if not all, med schools. I'd still recommend checking directly with them for the specific details (what kind of work ex, how many hours, considering what you already have, etc) as they're the ones who'll be assessing your application :-)


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Original post by WhatDoWithLife
I'm a Computer Science PhD student possibly interested in GEM once I've finished my course.

I have all As in GCSE sciences, maths and English, AAC at A level (in chemistry, maths, and ICT).

I got a high first in my CS degree from a russell group uni (just over 80%), and am now on a PhD program at the same university.

My extra-curriculars are nonexistent, and I also have no work or volunteering experience within healthcare. My knowledge of biology is also pretty weak since I stopped studying it after GCSE level.

From looking at the GEM wiki page, it seems I may be eligible for some universities, as long as I spice up my work experience (and extra-curriclulars?), and also get a very good UKCAT score.

I would appreciate it if anyone here could give me any recommendations on how beef up my application?

Obviously carrying out some volunteering experience over the next few years would be beneficial, and practising for the UKCAT would help. I'm also considering doing a PhD project related to medicine/healthcare, which is very possible given the field I have chosen to specialise in.

Maybe reading through an A level biology textbook could be beneficial as well? (I may even consider undergoing the A level if possible, and I have enough time, as long as there is no practical element like there was with chemistry...).

Finally, I guess I'm going to have to come up with some very good reasons as to why I wish to switch to medicine all of a sudden, and didn't go for it straight out of sixth form (hopefully the honest answer of being young and clueless will suffice!).

Can anyone offer any more words of wisdom?



Words of wisdom please dont apply to the med schools i am *cries*
haha kidding!!!
you sound like your in a great position to be in :smile:

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