men have an entitlement complex to.women, sex, power and status, discuss.

I';m not the one tearing down the stay at home dad! It's women who don't find it attractive! Although, I would not like to be one my whole life…

lol alpha talk right there bolded

you sound Redpill bruh

You will have to clarify your basement dweller lingo with me.

Eh, well, I don't think you can campaign to change what someone is or is not attracted to. That just isn't how humans work. You might point to the whole 'my curves are beautiful' thing, but that never changed what men were attracted to, it only changed the self-worth of overweight women (whether thats a good/bad thing is another argument in itself).

Also, I feel the need to point out the difference between social acceptance and attraction. There is also a world of difference between not being attracted to something and developing a systematic, online hate campaign.

without being part of the online movement itself, you accept in this quote that there are certain base evolutionary drives that govern what hetero men and women are attracted to

that it is foolish and futile to alter through social engineering such as feminism for the purpose of total social equality that is just not applicable in practice. 'The patriarchy' is therefore not a social construct but the natural order according to evolutionary psychology

Yep, I agree with that.



Do I think that young girls in the middle east should be able to go to school without being stoned to death? Yes

Do I think that women should be freely able to post images of their nipples on instagram (#freethenipple)? I couldn't give a flying **** either way.

By feminism I mean trying to apply feminist logic from social laws such as education (as you mention a serious problem in the Middle East) to relationships, where sexual attraction is the foundation.

OK, so either most men IRL hold no entitlement complex, or hide it well enough for you not to notice.

How about the women? Did you observe any of them? Noticed anything explicitly entitled? How about something more subtle, say in relationship dynamics or conflict?

How does this notion actually affect your day-to-day life? Give me some tangible examples that have happened to you.

I'm yet to be convinced that the notion of radical feminism genuinely exists beyond the fictional, online 'gender war'.

not quite. Sob story ahead

see my parents divorce


see girls treated me like I was 10 years old when I was 18

see Riku's 'Superman' story, mine was fairly similar in that my ex met a hot guy friend and the rest as they say is history

see what I hear women saying about men you once thought they respected once you turn 18 and hit the bars with them; usually some variant of 'he's a beta'

see my parents divorce


see girls treated me like I was 10 years old when I was 18

see Riku's 'Superman' story, mine was fairly similar in that my ex met a hot guy friend and the rest as they say is history

see what I hear women saying about men you once thought they respected once you turn 18 and hit the bars with them; usually some variant of 'he's a beta'

See Rikus superman story?
Everyone knows who you are, they just dont say it out of...well I dont know.

because the mods are deleting any reference to that account that's why! Stop wrecking it

Oh, mate. Come on. I'm not even going to begin untangling that mess of neuroses and childhood pseudo-trauma. Call that a cop-out if you wish, but I'm not going to be your counsellor.

And citing anything posted by Riku as support is like hitting the self-destruct button. I'm out.

By venturing out to into the real world' you mean you went to tesco to buy a couple of cans of beans and, boldy decided to check out with the human til instead of the self-help machine ?

No. Just no.. I'll move this to..society in a bit

Hey!

That's exactly what I meant. I'd never realized how liberating life could be up until that point. Supermarket cashiers are what I live for.



Not you, you're relatively normal. I mean that with the utmost sincerity.

Plus I like you.

Is this like when a guy asks out a woman and when she rejects he turns on her? Like "You're ugly anyway". I used to see that all the time at school. But never in gender reverse. Hmm.

yes I know it was less you and more the other guy that I quoted haha

I know, never understood it myself

I've not noticed anything explicitly entitled amongst women, either. Nor anything subtle. Amongst the people I know and have known, there really is no sense of entitlement to wealth, power and status. They're just regular people in regular relationships (well, perhaps with a bit of kink thrown in ), doing regular or creative jobs with a focus on a healthy work/life balance.

One of my friends recently got offered a promotion and turned it down, because he loves the job he's doing now. Another one of my friends left a promising career because he wanted to focus on his music. My female friends and I would much rather be with a man who has some time for us than a man with a high-flying career working 60+ hours a week. That's just a personal preference, not an entitlement.

Power and status are irrelevant, really. At least, to us. It's all about being happy in life, and for some that might be having lots of money and having a supermodel on your arm, whilst for others, like the people I hang out with, it's doing what you love, even if it doesn't make you wealthy, and being with who you love - people who love you for who are.

Exposed :holmes2:

I didnt mean any offence but a lot of females these days are irrational and are extremely unreasonable. Maybe its the way society has conditioned them to be idk.