BBC One Show complaints about Rita Ora outfit

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Lol I was expecting something much worse from the fact people complained

I can kind of imagine the type of people that will have complained. I don't know whether it just reflects my irrational prejudices. Sometimes when you're out in public you see some people that seem completely divorced from the real world, usually middle aged posh people that develop some kind of righteous indignation about some issue or are excessively moralising in their manner.

Rita Ora knew what she was doing, she wanted to go in an edgy outfit that was always going to get some publicity. Often when guest singers go on X factor they wear outfits that draw criticism.

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lustawny

Original post by DiddyDec

Sexual - relating to instincts, physiological processes, and activities connected with physical attraction or intimate physical contact between individuals.

Do breasts fit the definition? Yes. Therefore breasts are sexual.

Exactly. Breasts are used in foreplay, and foreplay is a sexual activity.

Reply 23

DiddyDec01

Original post by lustawny

Exactly. Breasts are used in foreplay, and foreplay is a sexual activity.

A small bit of logic goes a long way.

Reply 24

kodlak

People watch the one show?!

Reply 25

laura555

Original post by lustawny

I think you've contradicted yourself with this comment. If they've been sexualised, surely that would mean they're sexual now - regardless of whether they weren't originally intended to be used during sex?

I didn't. A sex organ is an organ that you use to have sex (or that is part of the reproductive system), such as a vagina or a penis. Breasts aren't a primary sexual characteristic. They are a secondary sexual characteristic. Secondary sexual characteristics are things that you get when you go through puberty, such as a pronounced adams apple or breasts.

Just because some people are sexually attracted to breasts doesn't mean that they are sex organs. That is like someone going 'oh wow i really like shoulders, now nobody is allowed to have bare shoulders in case i get turned on'. Peoples feelings towards a pody part doesn't magically make that body part sexual.

sorry if my english is crappy, i'm super tired and ill.

Reply 26

laura555

Original post by lustawny

Exactly. Breasts are used in foreplay, and foreplay is a sexual activity.

That makes no sense? A hell of a lot of neck kissing goes on in foreplay, do I have to wear a polo neck now too?

Reply 27

laura555

Original post by DiddyDec

Some people find breasts sexual. Other people find feet sexual. That doesn't make them sex organs.

Reply 28

lustawny

Original post by laura555

I wasn't saying that breasts are a sex organ. I'm saying that the fact that breasts are not an organ used specifically for intercourse, does not make them any less sexual. A user on this thread has already pointed out the definition of sexual to you - it doesn't just mean intercourse.

Your claim was that breasts were not sexual at all, was it not?

Reply 29

DiddyDec01

Original post by laura555

Some people find breasts sexual. Other people find feet sexual. That doesn't make them sex organs.

In the west we find them sexual and it has been proven that breasts play an important role in sexual bonding. Can you show me at what point I said that breasts were sex organs (pro tip, you can't).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-young-phd/breasts_b_1910401.html

Breasts fit the definition of sexual whether you like it or not.

Reply 30

cambio wechsel

Original post by DiddyDec

Interestingly, although not very, breasts do not fit that definition, their not being any of "instincts, physiological processes, and activities".

Reply 31

laura555

Original post by lustawny

I'm trying to say that Rita Ora's body belongs to her and she can do what she wants with it. Obviously, if she had gone on the one show with her vajayjay out that would have been a bit weird and really inappropriate because that show airs at like seven or something. But she didn't, she went out partially exposing a none sexual part of her body that some people find sexually attractive.

I'm trying to that you can't just point at something not sexual, say that you find it sexually attractive, and then decide that from here on in that they are sexual and they must be treated as such.

Ugh, i don't think i'm making any sense whatsoever.

Basically, if I went up to some guy and told him that he had to wear gloves because fingers are not specifically designed for intercourse, but they turn me on anyway he would tell me to go to hell. And rightly so because I don't get to point out parts on other people and tell them that I find them sexually appealing and that they are now sexual.

Reply 32

laura555

Original post by cambio wechsel

Interestingly, although not very, breasts do not fit that definition, their not being any of "instincts, physiological processes, and activities".

I can't believe I didn't notice that haha

Reply 33

Green_Pink

You have to wonder if these people wear blindfolds when they go to the beach. They're breasts. Half the world has them. Get over it!

Reply 34

lustawny

Original post by laura555

If you actually remember my first post on this thread, I said "everyone who hasn't already, should embrace sexual permissiveness, because it would make for a much healthier society". I've never said that people should cover up, I've always been of the opinion that it's every person's prerogative to do what the hell they want when it comes to their own body.

Reply 35

uberteknik

Good grief. This caused complaints?

If you want to know what breakfast TV got up to in the past, take a look at the infamous interview between the late Paula Yates (Bob Geldof's ex-wife) and the late Michael Hutchence (INXS) on The Big Breakfast show, now over 20 years ago.

Sound and video quality are poor, but don't let that get in the way of your outrage!

[video="youtube_share;DHI_G1QFfIs"]http://youtu.be/DHI_G1QFfIs?list=PL71F86A6177AC2 1D5[/video]

Reply 36

minimarshmallow

Original post by lustawny

Exactly. Breasts are used in foreplay, and foreplay is a sexual activity.

Just like lips, necks, ears, sometimes toes... I have my toes covered at the moment, but none of the rest. Better not put me on the BBC!

Reply 37

username360639

Original post by Ndella

They're just jealous that they've lost their assets due to child-bearing. Haters gonna hate.

Hate, Hate, Hate and shake it off, shake if off. Don't mind me folks, casually breaking into song.

Reply 38

scrotgrot

Original post by laura555

No, they aren't. Breasts have been sexualized (which is sort of creepy if you think about why they exist) but they aren't sex organs.

Not really, the just-so story about why they evolved is because when we started walking upright (and also socialising sitting down) the buttocks were taken out of the male's eye line. So women with swollen breasts were favoured as they mimicked the buttocks.

On one hand it seems too simplistic but really I can't think of any other reason why swollen breasts should have evolved.

Of course milk and nipples do not have a sexual function, but boobs do. Their sexualisation is separate from the function provided by milk and nipples and so it isn't creepy.

Reply 39

corax

I keep thinking that if she wore like a vest top with cleavage showing there wouldn't be a problem. I'm not quite sure what the difference is.

Any who, over-sexualisation at fault again.