Satirism, provocation, and hatred.

I don't care who it offends, I will continue to support, draw and encourage drawings of Mohammad in sexual/satirical/insulting ways till the day I die.

If someone is so central to your identity that just a drawing of them makes you kill people... your identity is worthless, stupid, dumb and should be mocked.

You cannot have stability in a country like France which believes that religion is fair game to be ridiculed.

then rather than trying to force it to change its culture through violence and terrorism it would be better if the religious chose somewhere more suitable to their beliefs.

Attacks like this will only create more satire and ridicule and rightly so as it's taken a long time for us to get the freedoms we have and we're not going to roll over readily and just given them up because an immigrant who has chose to move to a country with these freedoms finds them offensive

It is now a vicious circle, but it is also a self-fulfilling prophecy for France. You attack a religion, that religion finds it distasteful, you attack it some more, you start to hate that religion, that religion attacks you, and then something really bad happens. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. You cannot incite religious hatred without consequences. You cannot bismirch an identity and expect not to face the consequences.

Sorry but you've missed the starting point

Muslims attacked French Culture not the other way round

Then the circle started

and drawing a picture of MO is not inciting religious hatred I'm afraid so you're also wrong on that point.

This is because the french refused to change their society to comply with an extremist version of Islam (you do know the restriction on drawing old mo is a recent innovation from around the 1920's) where as satirical cartoons have been part of France's culture for centuries.

Have you actually researched this? The publication began to attack Islam in 2011 and depicted Mohammed as a cartoon. The cartoonists were the original provocateurs.

The West's love-affair with satire is rooted in Judaism. This is the great irony. The recent atrocities in France is an internal issue. The murderors or terrorists were actually born in France, and they were reasonably suited to the way of life, at least according to the accounts I have read.

What concerns me is that France is a secular country with a dialogue which is relatively anti-religion and pro-atheism. There are, of course, Catholics and Jews in France, and the satirists who were murdered had been banned in the past for publishing very provocative images of a religious nature.

With Islam, the prophet Mohammed is central to the Muslim identity. Attack the identity and you run into serious trouble. Imagine, that your neighbour was a Jew, an orthodox Jew, and you considered one day to join with a group of like-minded people and draw cartoons depicting orthodox Jews in a very poor taste - naked, holding money bags, devil's horns, etc - do you think your neighbour would get upset or not?

The French satirist publication was read by thousands of people, and in that environment there is already the potent ingredients for cultural conflict. This is not about religion, because these Muslims killers were born in France, and many Muslims who have condemned these killers were also born in France. This is not about religion, but culture. Which culture?

French culture. Not Islamic culture. France has assimilated itself with Islam, whether it likes that or not. The fact is that the recent atrocities was home-grown and was an internal issue facing France's relatioship with secularism, and its beliefs about freedom of speech.

The French satirists believed that there should be no boundaries to freedom of speech; you can criticise anyone. This is wrong. You have no right to provocate hatred this way. Freedom of speech should be limited, it should not be unfettered.

It is right, however, to condemn the actions of the killers, but the Muslims understand that there are limits to freedom of speech. And France knows this too! It's just that some fraternities in France are deliberately provocative. Let's be honest here and look at the problem in the face: the cartoons were anti-semitic.

This is not a right wing or fascist issue. It is a cultural issue at the heart of Europe. Europe and America decided on a plan to grow a melting pot of cultures. To do that you need the fall guy, and Islam is that fall guy, because the West is dialogue with secularism and Islam is not. Now that Islam in France is a secular issue, it is causing a rift. This rift is not so big in, say, Saudi Arabia. For France the issue is internal, and to blame religion or Islam for these atrocities is simply an error.

The satirists were deliberately provocative, were previously banned for publishing very sensitive images. One of them showed Mohammed bent over with testicles on show and a star covering his anus - even showing an orthodox Jew pushing Mohammed in a wheel chair - . There are limits to everything, and freedom of speech is no exception. But then we in the West are hypocrites. We condemn those that get angry over sensitive images, and yet we censure other kinds of expression.

Yes I have

Sorry to say but you're supporting an extremist aspect of Islam recently introduced to muslims (as I said 1920's) over a countries century old history of ridiculing faith and power using things such as cartoons

But do tell how is depicting Mo an attack on Islam?

Europe and America decided on a plan to grow a melting pot of cultures.

The issue is culture, French culture.

I can't be bothered to wade through your sea of manure, but I did spot this particularly tickling turd.

When did "Europe", by which I suppose you mean Europeans, decide this?

France is a secular country with a dialogue which is relatively anti-religion and pro-atheism.

This is not a right wing or fascist issue.

Free speech is absolute but if you go round deliberately insulting and mocking people's identity then you shouldn't be surprised when they get annoyed and bite back.

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