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Economics Psychology SL ?

Hallo :smile:
I'm going to start the IB courses in two years time but I have to submit my selection of subjects now ! My current choice would be :
-German A HL
-English B HL
-French B HL
-Maths SL ( has to be taken in SL)
-Biology SL
-Economics/Psychology SL
(after I saw the other posted threads and read the combinations of subjects from other students I'm looking a bit stupid but well ....)
however ... So I'm torn between Psych and Econ SL and I have absolutely no idea how to decide ...
I am currently thinking about studying law but that's not decretory
What are your recommendations/experiences with those subjects ?
Would be very grateful if you can help ...
Reply 1
Physchology is a poor mans biology do econ and drop French for physics or geography or something
Reply 2
Original post by 345lmik
Hallo :smile:
I'm going to start the IB courses in two years time but I have to submit my selection of subjects now ! My current choice would be :
-German A HL
-English B HL
-French B HL
-Maths SL ( has to be taken in SL)
-Biology SL
-Economics/Psychology SL
(after I saw the other posted threads and read the combinations of subjects from other students I'm looking a bit stupid but well ....)
however ... So I'm torn between Psych and Econ SL and I have absolutely no idea how to decide ...
I am currently thinking about studying law but that's not decretory
What are your recommendations/experiences with those subjects ?
Would be very grateful if you can help ...


I'll try my best to help you decide between both of them but its going to be tough as I take both of them as higher level subjects and love them both.

Psychology

It's an extremely interesting IMO. You learn about the biological/cognitive and sociocultural level of analysis. I've done the biological level of analysis so far so I can only tell you about what that level of analysis involves. You basically look at how different things (neurotransmitters, localisation of function, hormones, genetics etc) affect/effect behavior. As well as principles of the biological level of analysis, research methods that are used etc and ethical issues of studies that have been conducted to look at stuff to do with the biological level of analysis. It's an extremely essay based subject as the exams (paper 1 and 2 - what you'll be taking as a SL student) are entirely essay based. So if that doesn't appeal to you I'd reconsider as economics in that respect is much less based on how you write your essay but what you include in your essay - psychology essay a bit more like English were you need to master the structure and content to get marks.

Are you a person who's more interested in things like biology, the brain, how people function etc or are you more interested in logical things (like maths - calculations etc)? That is the main difference IMO between psychology and economics. Psychology would probably appeal more to artsy students (which you seem like you are as you're taking higher level languages?) where as economics would appeal more to people who are into logical thinking - so maths, sciences, that sort of stuff.

Economics

Economics is equally as interesting as psychology but it tends to get dry sometimes especially if you're teacher lectures in a monotone voice - then its a nightmare! You essentially learn about how the economy works in allocating scarce resources efficiently - you look at things in small scale (microeconomics - firms, individuals, governments etc) and the large scale (the economy as a whole). Economics is also an essay based subject like psychology but you aren't marked on your essay writing techniques but rather on the content of your essay, so the key to writing economics exams is to jot down everything that is relevant rather than worrying about how its structured etc as know one is marking you on that. Economics has a mathematical component (although you don't have to take the qualitative paper as you're a SL student) - so if maths isn't your strength then perhaps take psychology? Or choose according to the subject material you're more interested in learning?

I have to mention that economics is an easier 7 (around 12-13% of students get 7's in SL economics) where as psychology is pretty damn hard to get a 7 in (around 4-5% of students only get 7s). Plus psychology is much more memorization and work intensive where as understanding the concepts in economics is necessary rather than memorising a bunch of studies. That brings me to my next point - IB psychology isn't like what you read on magazine and what not, its all about looking at different concepts and learning studies that investigate those subjects and linking the findings of the case study/experiment to the central concepts. So you'll be spending a lot more time learning case studies/experiments than learning about the things you read in magazines. -> If that doesn't interest you do economics. From the perspective of universities, economics is a well respected subject but psychology is seen as more of a 'soft' subject so to speak - this may tip the scales for you if you're interested in more competitive universities BUT UK universities care much about your SL subjects so it probably won't make much of a difference anyways. I personally recommend you take economics but its up to you.

Hope I helped! Feel free to ask more questions :smile:
(edited 9 years ago)
Reply 3
Original post by 345lmik
Thank you so much for answering !!
Basically I am interested in both subjects because I actually like biology and especially what you told now sounds quite interesting ! But on the other side I like economics too - I have it now for the first year and although the teacher is extremely bad I really appreciate learning it (my father has studied Economics too and he also helps and explains me a lot that's why I started considering it...)
So actually I do not really like mathematics and I already took into account that in economics Maths is part ! But I often heard (and you also mentioned) that SL has no Maths part ... Or does it ? Or to what extend do you have Maths in SL ? Would it matter a lot when Maths is not my strongest point ?
At the beginning I was sure that I'll take Psychology as I actually do not have problems with memorizing things or writing a lot of essays (as long as I'm interested ...) !
But now I'm tending towards Economics also because I heard that it is in the end effect more valuable in future like when you are able to understand what is going on in the world and so on ... And also for law it is highly recommended ! But well... My only worry about Econ is that I am maybe not suitable and talented enough for it !
However - thank you again for your great help - I really have a good impressions of both subjects now :smile:



Don't know for IB but for A level if you can do a percentage change that is it for maths. I think if you are looking at law economics will help you look at things which are not black and white and formulate an argument, which will be really useful.
Reply 4
Ah ok - that's good because I actually really dislike Maths so if I can decrease it to a minimum it would be perfect .. :smile:
Thank you for your tipp too ... But the other Subjects are all decided it is just group 3 where I am struggling !
Reply 5
Original post by pbunny
I'll try my best to help you decide between both of them but its going to be tough as I take both of them as higher level subjects and love them both.

Psychology

It's an extremely interesting IMO. You learn about the biological/cognitive and sociocultural level of analysis. I've done the biological level of analysis so far so I can only tell you about what that level of analysis involves. You basically look at how different things (neurotransmitters, localisation of function, hormones, genetics etc) affect/effect behavior. As well as principles of the biological level of analysis, research methods that are used etc and ethical issues of studies that have been conducted to look at stuff to do with the biological level of analysis. It's an extremely essay based subject as the exams (paper 1 and 2 - what you'll be taking as a SL student) are entirely essay based. So if that doesn't appeal to you I'd reconsider as economics in that respect is much less based on how you write your essay but what you include in your essay - psychology essay a bit more like English were you need to master the structure and content to get marks.

Are you a person who's more interested in things like biology, the brain, how people function etc or are you more interested in logical things (like maths - calculations etc)? That is the main difference IMO between psychology and economics. Psychology would probably appeal more to artsy students (which you seem like you are as you're taking higher level languages?) where as economics would appeal more to people who are into logical thinking - so maths, sciences, that sort of stuff.

Economics

Economics is equally as interesting as psychology but it tends to get dry sometimes especially if you're teacher lectures in a monotone voice - then its a nightmare! You essentially learn about how the economy works in allocating scarce resources efficiently - you look at things in small scale (microeconomics - firms, individuals, governments etc) and the large scale (the economy as a whole). Economics is also an essay based subject like psychology but you aren't marked on your essay writing techniques but rather on the content of your essay, so the key to writing economics exams is to jot down everything that is relevant rather than worrying about how its structured etc as know one is marking you on that. Economics has a mathematical component (although you don't have to take the qualitative paper as you're a SL student) - so if maths isn't your strength then perhaps take psychology? Or choose according to the subject material you're more interested in learning?

I have to mention that economics is an easier 7 (around 12-13% of students get 7's in SL economics) where as psychology is pretty damn hard to get a 7 in (around 4-5% of students only get 7s). Plus psychology is much more memorization and work intensive where as understanding the concepts in economics is necessary rather than memorising a bunch of studies. That brings me to my next point - IB psychology isn't like what you read on magazine and what not, its all about looking at different concepts and learning studies that investigate those subjects and linking the findings of the case study/experiment to the central concepts. So you'll be spending a lot more time learning case studies/experiments than learning about the things you read in magazines. -> If that doesn't interest you do economics. From the perspective of universities, economics is a well respected subject but psychology is seen as more of a 'soft' subject so to speak - this may tip the scales for you if you're interested in more competitive universities BUT UK universities care much about your SL subjects so it probably won't make much of a difference anyways. I personally recommend you take economics but its up to you.

Hope I helped! Feel free to ask more questions :smile:



Thank you so much for answering !!
Basically I am interested in both subjects because I actually like biology and especially what you told now sounds quite interesting ! But on the other side I like economics too - I have it now for the first year and although the teacher is extremely bad I really appreciate learning it (my father has studied Economics too and he also helps and explains me a lot that's why I started considering it...)
So actually I do not really like mathematics and I already took into account that in economics Maths is part ! But I often heard (and you also mentioned) that SL has no Maths part ... Or does it ? Or to what extend do you have Maths in SL ? Would it matter a lot when Maths is not my strongest point ?
At the beginning I was sure that I'll take Psychology as I actually do not have problems with memorizing things or writing a lot of essays (as long as I'm interested ...) !
But now I'm tending towards Economics also because I heard that it is in the end effect more valuable in future like when you are able to understand what is going on in the world and so on ... And also for law it is highly recommended ! But well... My only worry about Econ is that I am maybe not suitable and talented enough for it !
However - thank you again for your great help - I really have a good impressions of both subjects now
I do both Economics and Psychology at HL and personally I would find it really hard to chose between them. They are both very different subjects but to be honest I find them equally interesting. The thing that would swing it for me would be that economics is an easier subject to get a 7 in, plus it would probably be more useful if you do decide to do law. I was expecting at the beginning of the year to find economics quite dry and psychology far more interesting but so far I would say if anything my expectations have been reversed. I don't know about the maths content in SL, but so far at HL I'm finding the maths content to be very easy and I'm doing studies maths, so I'm sure you'll be fine!
Reply 7
Original post by awkwardgal
I do both Economics and Psychology at HL and personally I would find it really hard to chose between them. They are both very different subjects but to be honest I find them equally interesting. The thing that would swing it for me would be that economics is an easier subject to get a 7 in, plus it would probably be more useful if you do decide to do law. I was expecting at the beginning of the year to find economics quite dry and psychology far more interesting but so far I would say if anything my expectations have been reversed. I don't know about the maths content in SL, but so far at HL I'm finding the maths content to be very easy and I'm doing studies maths, so I'm sure you'll be fine!


Thank you a lot for your advise ( I really appreciate !!) - I have to choose tomorrow and subsequently I'm a bit nervous that Economics won't work .... but after I heard so many good things I think I should (Hopefully) manage ! :smile: :smile:
Reply 8
Original post by 345lmik
Thank you so much for answering !!
Basically I am interested in both subjects because I actually like biology and especially what you told now sounds quite interesting ! But on the other side I like economics too - I have it now for the first year and although the teacher is extremely bad I really appreciate learning it (my father has studied Economics too and he also helps and explains me a lot that's why I started considering it...)
So actually I do not really like mathematics and I already took into account that in economics Maths is part ! But I often heard (and you also mentioned) that SL has no Maths part ... Or does it ? Or to what extend do you have Maths in SL ? Would it matter a lot when Maths is not my strongest point ?
At the beginning I was sure that I'll take Psychology as I actually do not have problems with memorizing things or writing a lot of essays (as long as I'm interested ...) !
But now I'm tending towards Economics also because I heard that it is in the end effect more valuable in future like when you are able to understand what is going on in the world and so on ... And also for law it is highly recommended ! But well... My only worry about Econ is that I am maybe not suitable and talented enough for it !
However - thank you again for your great help - I really have a good impressions of both subjects now


You don't do much maths is SL economics so don't let that deter you from choosing it plus the maths is REALLY easy so you shouldn't worry at all. The fact that your dad can help you with economics is a huge plus in my opinion so I'd take advantage and take economics. Plus, economics will provide you with a solid base in basic economic theories that can be applied to real life so that is useful. Where as psychology is a lot more about learning studies so you don't learn a lot that can be applied to real life - as everything revolves around looking at studies, their findings and evaluating methodology etc.

I say go for economics! :smile: I'm sure you'll enjoy it

P.S. Its easier to get a 7 in econ :wink:
Reply 9
Original post by pbunny
You don't do much maths is SL economics so don't let that deter you from choosing it plus the maths is REALLY easy so you shouldn't worry at all. The fact that your dad can help you with economics is a huge plus in my opinion so I'd take advantage and take economics. Plus, economics will provide you with a solid base in basic economic theories that can be applied to real life so that is useful. Where as psychology is a lot more about learning studies so you don't learn a lot that can be applied to real life - as everything revolves around looking at studies, their findings and evaluating methodology etc.

I say go for economics! :smile: I'm sure you'll enjoy it

P.S. Its easier to get a 7 in econ :wink:


Thank you for the encouragement - I chose it now and I'm pretty excited how it will be (in two years ...) !
Thanks for your great help again (sorry for repeating it is often :smile: )

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