Feeling accepted in Britain (for ethnic minorities)

Of course human rights are abstractions! What, do you think some spook in the sky bestowed them unto us?



Does the deer not have a “right” to not have his throat torn apart by hyaenas? Of course he doesn't!

An enoch powell in our midst...how interesting.

Let's be reality here, you're most likely some inbred looking town dweller that believes in the one drop of minority blood rule. Secretly, you feel threatened and underneath the superiority complex you unconsciously feel inferior about your inferior aesthetics. It's ok though mate, people are sympathetic towards the inbred. It's not your fault you most likely look a bit weird.

Seriel killer

So Human Rights are negligible to you?
Right.

Just curious; but what do you actually contribute to society?

I wonder if your morals relating to other issues are just as reprehensible.

You saying I and all other people who do not have a 100% genetic basis within their own country, most likely a massive proportion of the country, should be ousted. You hold the most ridiculous and confused ideals.

Your caring for genes and skin colour, rather than contribution to OUR society, is also absolutely absurd, and vile.

You say it as if it holds little or no basis in reality, which is what 'abstraction' means. In that way it is not an abstraction, as human rights and morality are both inbuilt into society and so is morality, at the biological level.

Nature, and society and morality are completely different... Making comparisons to nature is... hilariously wrong and inaccurate.

Wow, that was rather inflammatory. Most of what you said was absolute conjecture.

Firstly, people travel. A whole great deal now. Something is wrong with you if you refuse to be with someone that isn't of your ethnicity. Back in the day, people still travelled.

Quite a few people speak English yes. So? To say I'm not British when I can speak British ostensibly better than you - sounds rather funny to me.

I do not associate with those values, at all. In fact, I am the complete opposite! I meant in the way of existing within the culture, the way things are - people and culture are intertwined.
If Britain has such bad 'culture' then why are you so mindlessly saying people who contribute positively towards 'your' culture are not to be a part of it?

I'm proud to be able to use what our government has provided me with (through university provision) to allow me to contribute in making the country and the world a better place.
(PS. I do have to pay this all back, and then pay tax all of my life. Not to mention doing my bit in other ways.)

Society should be fair, yes. In the West we value egalitarianism quite highly! Though nature is not - obviously, it is very flawed. Just to say bad things happen, like you being racist, doesn't mean that it shouldn't. Thought that distinction be obvious though.

I don't feel accepted in this country ... but then again I don't feel as if I need to be. I only speak to a few people most of whom are white british and I wear "western" clothes etc. But I don't really feel as if I need to be accepted. I'm part of a minority and I guess that's where they always want me to be ... I don't care really.

I live in an mixed area which is predominantly asian (subcontinent/desi)/white (NO NOT HOUNSLOW OR HARROW) and I am neither of which but still I don't feel accepted. Maybe I've just got acceptance issues ^_^

Also OP, I'm sorry that happened to you. I know people will scream "free speech" but I never understand people like that who choose to be purposely offensive about the cultural/ethnic background of random strangers.

It was just so shameful,like they would just say the word ethnic 10 times in a sentence on purpose as if to emphasise I'm inferior

White-British people (like myself) are now in the minority in my home city (London), although we may still constitute the largest ethnic group, it's little consolation for feeling like a foreigner in your home town

I'm sorry but White people that think like this need to get over themselves. Non-Whites who are born here have as much right to live here has the White-British population. They invited our parents/grandparents/ancestors to come here you can't now complain after decades that there is too many foreigners.

That wasn’t terribly British of him now was it? Sorry this happened to you OP

These sort of comments that serve as to alienate particular immigrant communities from the rest of the population. If you want to live harmoniously among us, in our land, kindly respect us, our culture and history

Excuse me?

Perhaps he sees exotic characteristics as a positive

Generally education can, but it must be accompanied by a cessation of ‘the changing face of Britain’, a level playing field for minorities, change in social identities/enhanced secularity (or else Islamists being asked/made to leave) and related enhanced community integration, and a reduction in related hostilities, and will take time e.g. a few generations

My best mate at school was of Nigerian descent. As far as I know we all conceived of him as British, but then he didn’t have a foreign accent, foreign mannerisms, or much in the way of foreign culture going on..

My conception, in 2012:



Boy, and I thought I was heavy!

You'll find that's generally because the 'terrorists' are following a common (typically professed) ideological 'terrorist' agenda, whereas the white nutters are usually just nutters

Rule of law + self defence + thick skin + relocation if absolutely necessary

This is termed inter-culturalism, and is associated with intracivilisational 'mixing' e.g. between French and British Canadians in the Canadian model

I’m sure Cleese and I aren’t the only Londoners who feel this way

White-British people (like myself) are now in the minority in my home city (London), although we may still constitute the largest ethnic group, it's little consolation for feeling like a foreigner in your home town


Higher still and you start to spot trends, look at the facts of the matter, and recognise that tolerance is not a sure-fire recipe for success given human nature. I am from a liberal background, am well educated, intelligent, and was raised in a diverse society. Guess what, I’m also a realist

It is also related to GB being a ‘Great Power’ (historically at least), as it relates directly to languages spoken in international institutions e.g. Bretton Woods (which have their origins in the tail end of The Age of Empire)

Not a fair response, in London the majority of people don't live there. It's due to tourists that whites are a minority.

And in addition, WE didn't invite anyone, the government did. Not our generation either. S/he is well within their right to feel that way.

Your ancestors allowed this to happen how can you blame people that were invited to come and live? People like this are all a bunch of White English elitists who blame people of colour for everything.

Your ancestors allowed this to happen how can you blame people that were invited to come and live? People like this are all a bunch of White English elitists who blame people of colour for everything.

MY ANCESTORS? My friend, I am half Italian, I assure that my ancestors did no such thing. My papa belongs to this minority group, moved here in the early 1980's and it's been his home ever since. I am not blaming anyone and i'm disgusted by the accusation. Colour has nothing to with this either. I live in a town where there is an infestation of recently emmigrated benefit scrounging Polish people-they are white.
I actually don't care who you are, where you are from, whether you are black, white or ****ing purple. If you pay tax and behave, I love you and wish you peace. It's the people who have more recently emigrated for the sole purpose of the benefit system that piss me off.

My close friend is half-Italian. Which part of Italy are you from?

Generally education can, but it must be accompanied by a cessation of ‘the changing face of Britain’, a level playing field for minorities, change in social identities/enhanced secularity (or else Islamists being asked/made to leave) and related enhanced community integration, and a reduction in related hostilities, and will take time e.g. a few generations

General education is essential, of course. I think integrating parts of black history and the history of all the countries that used to make up Britain's Empire, before colonisation, would make us more concerned.
When you say the "cessation of the changing face of Britain", do you mean the cessation of the term or of the phenomenon? If it's the latter, I'm afraid (glad actually) that it cannot be prevented
Again, "a level playing field for minorities": between minorities or minorities and white people?
Change in social identities? Again, for us minorities? We need to tone our attitude down because it bothers you?

I'm not sure enhanced secularity is the solution: I'm half French and France is a staunch secular state and I know the problems it can cause (aka, ostracising Muslims).

And yes, it will take time