Feeling accepted in Britain (for ethnic minorities)
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Original post by Foo.mp3
That wasn’t terribly British of him now was it? 
Sorry this happened to you OP
These sort of comments that serve as to alienate particular immigrant communities from the rest of the population. If you want to live harmoniously among us, in our land, kindly respect us, our culture and history
Sorry this happened to you OPThese sort of comments that serve as to alienate particular immigrant communities from the rest of the population. If you want to live harmoniously among us, in our land, kindly respect us, our culture and history
Look at this fool. My SJ (Mum) is as white upper middle class as it gets. Grandpa is an "eton goon" who has been matching his socks and tie longer than your mother's pubic hair. (LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL) and let me tell you as a half arab baby, it is YOU who wants to live harmoniously among us in "our" land.
*drops mic* Vote UKIP if you want, get "us" kicked out but I am probably more "white" than you.
Original post by iamsuperwoman
*drops mic* Vote UKIP if you want, get "us" kicked out
*drops mic* Vote UKIP if you want, get "us" kicked out
Deportation a policy UKIP are keeping under wraps?
Original post by HigherMinion
Deportation a policy UKIP are keeping under wraps?
Don't quote me.
Original post by iamsuperwoman
Don't quote me.
When you stop posting nonsense, you'll be quoted far less! You know how this works, you provocateur, you.
Original post by Foo.mp3
Perhaps you missed the ‘War on Terror’?
Perhaps you missed the ‘War on Terror’?
No such thing as "War on Terror" it is a war on Islam and the fact you think this is a joke shows how deviant the mentality of people like you is.
Original post by queen-bee
So today,I went out to the pharmacy to get some essentials etc and as I was walking back home I came across two guys who seemed to look normal at first sight. One of them then just suddenly came up to me and started asking questions about where i'm from and then went on to insult my background after I told him I was part middle eastern and part italian. He also blamed 'my people' for the Paris attack today and was rambling on and on,bearing in my mind this was in a shop and everyone could hear and see the harsh racist comments he was making. He said stuff like 'oh you will never be british,no matter what you or you people do to try to fit in'...
so after I left the store and got home, I started thinking further about what he was saying. I mean I may have been born here but I don't even feel british at all! I've never dated a fully british guy for this reason I guess. I mean, I follow a similar culture(drinking,partying,how I dress etc) but will ethnic minorities ever be accepted into british society?! Do those on this forum who were born into ethnic families feel like they are accepted or do you still feel like an outsider?
so after I left the store and got home, I started thinking further about what he was saying. I mean I may have been born here but I don't even feel british at all! I've never dated a fully british guy for this reason I guess. I mean, I follow a similar culture(drinking,partying,how I dress etc) but will ethnic minorities ever be accepted into british society?! Do those on this forum who were born into ethnic families feel like they are accepted or do you still feel like an outsider?
Well let me put it to you this way, i couldnt care much, if anything, what invariably a complete stranger who happens to be British,
thinks about my contribution to this society. Further to this, what makes them anymore acceptable than myself and millions of other ethinic minorities? Finally, i am way too good looking to seek someones acceptance= as things stand people seek my acceptance.
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I am an ethnic minority myself and people are not usually racist just for the sake of being racist.
For example, last summer I went to Great Yarmouth, which has been a declining town for a few decades and it is 99% White. I found that people there were quite hostile, and many of those were racist. But people who are racist are usually because they are using other people as a scapegoat for their own failings.
You hear people saying "they took all our jobs" "they are straining services" etc. This is usually said by the white working class. If they are unemployed, they look for someone else to blame rather than seeing that it is their fault they are unskilled or that they are unwilling to work in certain jobs.
Hence why UKIP is doing so well in areas where there is high unemployment and with high economic deprivation, such as Grimsby and Great Yarmouth. People aren't racist for the sake of it, they only do it because they have no one else to blame. If it was a fat person or a gay person who "took their job" then they will probably blame them instead.
People who are well-educated would see the facts that people from Eastern Europe and immigrants etc. contribute more towards the economy than the working class whites who rely on the government for benefits and then blame others but not themselves.
For example, last summer I went to Great Yarmouth, which has been a declining town for a few decades and it is 99% White. I found that people there were quite hostile, and many of those were racist. But people who are racist are usually because they are using other people as a scapegoat for their own failings.
You hear people saying "they took all our jobs" "they are straining services" etc. This is usually said by the white working class. If they are unemployed, they look for someone else to blame rather than seeing that it is their fault they are unskilled or that they are unwilling to work in certain jobs.
Hence why UKIP is doing so well in areas where there is high unemployment and with high economic deprivation, such as Grimsby and Great Yarmouth. People aren't racist for the sake of it, they only do it because they have no one else to blame. If it was a fat person or a gay person who "took their job" then they will probably blame them instead.
People who are well-educated would see the facts that people from Eastern Europe and immigrants etc. contribute more towards the economy than the working class whites who rely on the government for benefits and then blame others but not themselves.
Original post by Foo.mp3
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No problem
I see the potential gains there as being still more dubious I’m afraid, as a lot of such history is either completely unrelated to the UK, or paints our forbears in a poor light
Not sure e.g. the history of French oppression in Algeria would inspire Arabs to identify more with France
I was referring to people from other civilisations (particularly ones that clash with ours); they shouldn’t really be admitted in the first place unless they are highly skilled/educated individuals we actually need here, their lands are thousands of miles away and there are plenty of more appropriate places for them to go closer to ‘home’. If they were to be deported then if not somewhere like Somalia then to a relatively suitable e.g. nearby state
I’m sorry, ‘we’? I’m not sure why you think you should get to set the agenda for Britain, and I’m pretty sure if anyone should it’s white British people (still forming the majority in our country). We want people who will subscribe to British values first and foremost, we are simply not interested in anyone else settling here, period
I already answered this. Minorities should have equal opportunities e.g. black males in this country currently do not
I’m sorry, can you be more specific?: blame whom, for what?
That’s fine, and a legitimate complaint
I don’t expect everyone to like this, but I would expect them to understand why dressing that way is seen as unacceptable in a modern, civilised, society, and to respect the laws of the land or else to move to a more Islamic country if they want to get big into all that jazz
And what do we have as a result?
On paper, yes
Can you give an example of how the UK Government is demonstrably anti-Islam?
No problem
I see the potential gains there as being still more dubious I’m afraid, as a lot of such history is either completely unrelated to the UK, or paints our forbears in a poor light
Not sure e.g. the history of French oppression in Algeria would inspire Arabs to identify more with France
I was referring to people from other civilisations (particularly ones that clash with ours); they shouldn’t really be admitted in the first place unless they are highly skilled/educated individuals we actually need here, their lands are thousands of miles away and there are plenty of more appropriate places for them to go closer to ‘home’. If they were to be deported then if not somewhere like Somalia then to a relatively suitable e.g. nearby state
I’m sorry, ‘we’? I’m not sure why you think you should get to set the agenda for Britain, and I’m pretty sure if anyone should it’s white British people (still forming the majority in our country). We want people who will subscribe to British values first and foremost, we are simply not interested in anyone else settling here, period
I already answered this. Minorities should have equal opportunities e.g. black males in this country currently do not
I’m sorry, can you be more specific?: blame whom, for what?
That’s fine, and a legitimate complaint
I don’t expect everyone to like this, but I would expect them to understand why dressing that way is seen as unacceptable in a modern, civilised, society, and to respect the laws of the land or else to move to a more Islamic country if they want to get big into all that jazz
And what do we have as a result?
Spoiler
On paper, yes
Can you give an example of how the UK Government is demonstrably anti-Islam?
Enlighten me a little, if you may.
Don't UK pupils learn about the Egyptians in History (serious question since I've done all my education in France
)? And you should only be taught the parts of History that paint your ancestors in a good light? That's pretty messed up.Good point. Classes actually cover this part of history. But maybe if programmes talked about all the Arabs and blacks and asians that fought for France during the the first and second World Wars, it might help. Or dedicating a whole chapter to France's role in the slave trade to pay some respect to the descendants of these slaves that make up the majority of the people that live in the overseas regions like Martinique, Guadeloupe or Guyane.
Could you be more specific? You mean people from Islamic countries? I don't like the idea of "picking and choosing" but I guess it is necessary, especially now.
I really don't understand why you would think I'd be so pompous as to think I'm actually qualified to set such agendas. I'm only 17.
And I actually meant white people, because in the end it's your country, right?
And sorry, I didn't understand your answer so that's I made you repeat. But I agree on equal opportunities 100%.
Let me repeat: Parents from immigrant background are often worried that their kids are losing their identity because of Westernisation. I don't a 100% agree with this stance.
And about all these problems associated with members of the Muslim community, I didn't know that. However the melting pot ideal hasn't totally failed, otherwise there would be so many mixed people like myself and our lovely OP.
I wasn't talking about the British gov's actions (France's Sarkozy gov however...
) but of the general sentiment towards Muslims, which I personally don't feel is justified. Original post by hellodave5
You have friends from other parts of the world that live and were born here? Honestly wouldn't have expected. Cognitive dissonance much 
You misconstrue me then as a “Little Englander”. I have no qualms with fellow Europeans being here so long as they're not here in too great a quantity and undergo assimilation from day one; however, I would not like to see anymore beings move to this country as we're already greatly overpopulated. So no “cognitive dissonance” then.
Original post by ProudEnglishman
You misconstrue me then as a “Little Englander”. I have no qualms with fellow Europeans being here so long as they're not here in too great a quantity and undergo assimilation from day one; however, I would not like to see anymore beings move to this country as we're already greatly overpopulated. So no “cognitive dissonance” then.
Fair enough. Though thought you mentioned being 'genetically homogeneous' as a nation being important to you.
Your previous statements seemed much more extreme than what you put forward there.
Its interesting how you specifically mention Europeans, though.
I think if you told your friends that have foreign ancestry your opinion that they aren't really 'British', you would have quite the fall out.
Not so much little Englander, as you seem to have a noggin (even though you hold extremely offensive views), but more of a middle class, not all that common, EDL type. Perhaps a man of older adulthood, with very strong views of another time.
Original post by hellodave5
Fair enough. Though thought you mentioned being 'genetically homogeneous' as a nation being important to you.
Your previous statements seemed much more extreme than what you put forward there.
Its interesting how you specifically mention Europeans, though.
I think if you told your friends that have foreign ancestry your opinion that they aren't really 'British', you would have quite the fall out.
Not so much little Englander, as you seem to have a noggin (even though you hold extremely offensive views), but more of a middle class, not all that common, EDL type. Perhaps a man of older adulthood, with very strong views of another time.
Your previous statements seemed much more extreme than what you put forward there.
Its interesting how you specifically mention Europeans, though.
I think if you told your friends that have foreign ancestry your opinion that they aren't really 'British', you would have quite the fall out.
Not so much little Englander, as you seem to have a noggin (even though you hold extremely offensive views), but more of a middle class, not all that common, EDL type. Perhaps a man of older adulthood, with very strong views of another time.
I'm eighteen in February, not an old man.
(Although, compared to my debaucherous peers, I may as well be.)Many Europeans don't offer much deviation from the homogeneity of us Britons and could thus be easily assimilated due to our common European history. Thus those that are already here must undergo that assimilation if they haven't already (so no more Polish-speaking in Britain, thank you), but no more may come (unless if it is British-blooded New Worlders returning home, so to speak, or the Boers in Africa seeking escape from the Communist regime).
My friend of half-English, half-Italian ancestry knows all about my ethnonationalist views; he witnessed every step of the transformation from liberal misanthropist to traditionalist ethnonationalist. It begun at the end of my final year of high school; I'm now at my second year of sixth-form.
The EDL are braindead cannon-fodder. They are purely anti-Islam and accept anyone in their movement provided that they are not a Muslim; they are also known for flying the blood-stained banner of the murderous state of Israhell.
Original post by ProudEnglishman
I'm eighteen in February, not an old man. (Although, compared to my debaucherous peers, I may as well be.)
Many Europeans don't offer much deviation from the homogeneity of us Britons and could thus be easily assimilated due to our common European history. Thus those that are already here must undergo that assimilation if they haven't already (so no more Polish-speaking in Britain, thank you), but no more may come (unless if it is British-blooded New Worlders returning home, so to speak, or the Boers in Africa seeking escape from the Communist regime).
My friend of half-English, half-Italian ancestry knows all about my ethnonationalist views; he witnessed every step of the transformation from liberal misanthropist to traditionalist ethnonationalist. It begun at the end of my final year of high school; I'm now at my second year of sixth-form.
The EDL are braindead cannon-fodder. They are purely anti-Islam and accept anyone in their movement provided that they are not a Muslim; they are also known for flying the blood-stained banner of the murderous state of Israhell.
(Although, compared to my debaucherous peers, I may as well be.)Many Europeans don't offer much deviation from the homogeneity of us Britons and could thus be easily assimilated due to our common European history. Thus those that are already here must undergo that assimilation if they haven't already (so no more Polish-speaking in Britain, thank you), but no more may come (unless if it is British-blooded New Worlders returning home, so to speak, or the Boers in Africa seeking escape from the Communist regime).
My friend of half-English, half-Italian ancestry knows all about my ethnonationalist views; he witnessed every step of the transformation from liberal misanthropist to traditionalist ethnonationalist. It begun at the end of my final year of high school; I'm now at my second year of sixth-form.
The EDL are braindead cannon-fodder. They are purely anti-Islam and accept anyone in their movement provided that they are not a Muslim; they are also known for flying the blood-stained banner of the murderous state of Israhell.
It's interesting as to how you have developed your world view. It is a rather extreme one.
I'm not too sure how your friend comes to grips with your views, either!
What underlies these views that you hold and why?
There must be some reason: be it family influence, the place that you live and your environment, or the terrible media? (and quite possibly none of those!).
Original post by hellodave5
It's interesting as to how you have developed your world view. It is a rather extreme one.
I'm not too sure how your friend comes to grips with your views, either!
What underlies these views that you hold and why?
There must be some reason: be it family influence, the place that you live and your environment, or the terrible media? (and quite possibly none of those!).
I'm not too sure how your friend comes to grips with your views, either!
What underlies these views that you hold and why?
There must be some reason: be it family influence, the place that you live and your environment, or the terrible media? (and quite possibly none of those!).
He comes to grips with my views in that he shares a similar discontentment with regards to the world; although, ironically, he's a fan of “professional” football and rap music.
I come from a background of worldly discontentment. When compared to the beautiful cultures of the past in this island, this age is truly an uncultured one. I got into nationalism via my interest for Norse mythology and Metal music via a band called “Burzum”; whilst I still listen to some Metal, I no longer identify with the sub-culture surrounding it as I see it to be a more angry version of pop culture as it possesses the same debaucherous approach to existence. The musician of Burzum, Varg Vikernes, no longer makes Metal music himself as he is too of this opinion; he makes ambient music these days with the occasional folk-sounding vocals.
You may have noticed the futhark (runic) avatar that I use on this forum which is, simply put, “Pagan stuff” (in the indigenous, non-“New Age” sense).
I was raised on a diet of European history though, and I've always held a fond affection for it, hence why I am so opposed to all forms of globalism as this leads to nought other than the desecration of heritage.
Original post by ProudEnglishman
He comes to grips with my views in that he shares a similar discontentment with regards to the world; although, ironically, he's a fan of “professional” football and rap music.
I come from a background of worldly discontentment. When compared to the beautiful cultures of the past in this island, this age is truly an uncultured one. I got into nationalism via my interest for Norse mythology and Metal music via a band called “Burzum”; whilst I still listen to some Metal, I no longer identify with the sub-culture surrounding it as I see it to be a more angry version of pop culture as it possesses the same debaucherous approach to existence. The musician of Burzum, Varg Vikernes, no longer makes Metal music himself as he is too of this opinion; he makes ambient music these days with the occasional folk-sounding vocals.
You may have noticed the futhark (runic) avatar that I use on this forum which is, simply put, “Pagan stuff” (in the indigenous, non-“New Age” sense).
I was raised on a diet of European history though, and I've always held a fond affection for it, hence why I am so opposed to all forms of globalism as this leads to nought other than the desecration of heritage.
I come from a background of worldly discontentment. When compared to the beautiful cultures of the past in this island, this age is truly an uncultured one. I got into nationalism via my interest for Norse mythology and Metal music via a band called “Burzum”; whilst I still listen to some Metal, I no longer identify with the sub-culture surrounding it as I see it to be a more angry version of pop culture as it possesses the same debaucherous approach to existence. The musician of Burzum, Varg Vikernes, no longer makes Metal music himself as he is too of this opinion; he makes ambient music these days with the occasional folk-sounding vocals.
You may have noticed the futhark (runic) avatar that I use on this forum which is, simply put, “Pagan stuff” (in the indigenous, non-“New Age” sense).
I was raised on a diet of European history though, and I've always held a fond affection for it, hence why I am so opposed to all forms of globalism as this leads to nought other than the desecration of heritage.
Metal. Good choice. I'm quite... a fan. Any music that is good, really. Though not of the really really heavy stuff which they look like. But yeah...
In a course module on... influence and manipulation methods at uni, we looked a little at globalisation and power (though I know very little of sociology, more focused on biology generally).
I remember reading that through globalisation specific sub-cultures can gain in influence through commercialisation of the sub-culture. For instance, Chinese is big here, and there is stuff like China town.
The fact that we have that is enriching, because it adds variation to our culture, whilst still significantly retaining our own. Similarly our own cultural influence is 'advertised' if you like, through the products of our own culture... umm... Football, class, our vast history etc.
I'm not fond of our culture: having to sit and watch XFactor or Deal or No Deal because it is on TV, or listen to people talking about football because it is simply the given thing to have an interest in for a guy. Multiculturalism isn't anything to do with it, for me.
Though what constitutes society as a whole currently is out of my reach. I like to blame people like 'Nicki Minaj', though probably just a 'symptom' of our culture, but she does a good job in... keeping it up, so to speak.
I find our multiculturalism an enhancement of our own civilisation: other cultures giving us what they have to offer: amazing food, festivities, activities, languages, and so forth. I would hate to only know the English way, and I like to be reminded of the rest of the worlds existence in my daily life.
Original post by Foo.mp3
Unlikely, you're too cute and unassuming 
Bad luck mate
Jolly good
I’m sorry but most Brits would be accepting of you as you are not Muslim, and are a gorgeous, good natured, well mannered, Westernised female
Your own parents were White-Western (Italian) and Arab (Syrian), and they worked out just fine for many years
My father’s favourite was my French ex, my mother’s was probably one who was half Iranian. They’re concerned with character, nothing else (granted this is quite rare)
Yup, and vice versa; all (successful) relationships are principally about communication, understanding and compromise anyway
Ceremonial stuff doesn’t really impact on the essence of a relationship (unless you’re extremely pedantic/intolerant)
Well there you go then, you’re very British indeed, even if you will never feel 100% British/accepted as British. Over time, you will likely feel still-more British/belonging, and that’s the main thing
That’s so quaint but you’re more than ‘British’ enough for me, and I have some Irish ancestry myself, so it’s not like I’m 100% British either!
There are plenty of options regarding marrying people from another faith, but thanks for your constructive post
Perhaps you missed the ‘War on Terror’?
No problem
I see the potential gains there as being still more dubious I’m afraid, as a lot of such history is either completely unrelated to the UK, or paints our forbears in a poor light
Not sure e.g. the history of French oppression in Algeria would inspire Arabs to identify more with France
I was referring to people from other civilisations (particularly ones that clash with ours); they shouldn’t really be admitted in the first place unless they are highly skilled/educated individuals we actually need here, their lands are thousands of miles away and there are plenty of more appropriate places for them to go closer to ‘home’. If they were to be deported then if not somewhere like Somalia then to a relatively suitable e.g. nearby state
I’m sorry, ‘we’? I’m not sure why you think you should get to set the agenda for Britain, and I’m pretty sure if anyone should it’s white British people (still forming the majority in our country). We want people who will subscribe to British values first and foremost, we are simply not interested in anyone else settling here, period
I already answered this. Minorities should have equal opportunities e.g. black males in this country currently do not
I’m sorry, can you be more specific?: blame whom, for what?
That’s fine, and a legitimate complaint
I don’t expect everyone to like this, but I would expect them to understand why dressing that way is seen as unacceptable in a modern, civilised, society, and to respect the laws of the land or else to move to a more Islamic country if they want to get big into all that jazz
And what do we have as a result?
On paper, yes
Can you give an example of how the UK Government is demonstrably anti-Islam?
True
In terms of citizenship, at law, true; otherwise, false
Clearly raised you well, with rhetoric like that
This land does not belong to Arabs, sorry love, I may be a cultured, dashing blonde Englishman but this is not the film: Lawrence of Arabia
Oh I have your permission to vote? I'm guessing you're not an Islamist then, in which case there's hopefully no need to kick you out
Bad luck mate
Jolly good
I’m sorry but most Brits would be accepting of you as you are not Muslim, and are a gorgeous, good natured, well mannered, Westernised female
Your own parents were White-Western (Italian) and Arab (Syrian), and they worked out just fine for many years
My father’s favourite was my French ex, my mother’s was probably one who was half Iranian. They’re concerned with character, nothing else (granted this is quite rare)
Yup, and vice versa; all (successful) relationships are principally about communication, understanding and compromise anyway
Ceremonial stuff doesn’t really impact on the essence of a relationship (unless you’re extremely pedantic/intolerant)
Well there you go then, you’re very British indeed, even if you will never feel 100% British/accepted as British. Over time, you will likely feel still-more British/belonging, and that’s the main thing
That’s so quaint but you’re more than ‘British’ enough for me, and I have some Irish ancestry myself, so it’s not like I’m 100% British either!
There are plenty of options regarding marrying people from another faith, but thanks for your constructive post
Spoiler
Perhaps you missed the ‘War on Terror’?
No problem
I see the potential gains there as being still more dubious I’m afraid, as a lot of such history is either completely unrelated to the UK, or paints our forbears in a poor light
Not sure e.g. the history of French oppression in Algeria would inspire Arabs to identify more with France
I was referring to people from other civilisations (particularly ones that clash with ours); they shouldn’t really be admitted in the first place unless they are highly skilled/educated individuals we actually need here, their lands are thousands of miles away and there are plenty of more appropriate places for them to go closer to ‘home’. If they were to be deported then if not somewhere like Somalia then to a relatively suitable e.g. nearby state
I’m sorry, ‘we’? I’m not sure why you think you should get to set the agenda for Britain, and I’m pretty sure if anyone should it’s white British people (still forming the majority in our country). We want people who will subscribe to British values first and foremost, we are simply not interested in anyone else settling here, period
I already answered this. Minorities should have equal opportunities e.g. black males in this country currently do not
I’m sorry, can you be more specific?: blame whom, for what?
That’s fine, and a legitimate complaint
I don’t expect everyone to like this, but I would expect them to understand why dressing that way is seen as unacceptable in a modern, civilised, society, and to respect the laws of the land or else to move to a more Islamic country if they want to get big into all that jazz
And what do we have as a result?
Spoiler
On paper, yes
Can you give an example of how the UK Government is demonstrably anti-Islam?
True
In terms of citizenship, at law, true; otherwise, false
Clearly raised you well, with rhetoric like that
This land does not belong to Arabs, sorry love, I may be a cultured, dashing blonde Englishman but this is not the film: Lawrence of Arabia
Oh I have your permission to vote? I'm guessing you're not an Islamist then, in which case there's hopefully no need to kick you out
The French, are generally worse when it comes to racial and religious hatred,and I'm not wrong in saying so. I came across a friend of a neighbour today,who are both french. The friend asked if I was hiding 'hayat B'( now the most wanted women in Europe) and that I need to tell my people to leave the banlieu and go back home to our lands to be raped and slaughtered. He then went on to call me an arab bitch who he would still like to **** because Europeans like us only for that one reason,just for looking different and much sexier. He then went on to ask me when will also be returning to Syria to get raped and beheaded,Isis style and better off that my mother was dead and there is now one less arab the world has to deal with. I am not feeling well at all and can barely do much but I just can't take this crap anymore for looking different and being blamed for crap I have nothing to do with and being openly discriminated against and instead of saying something all his friends were laughing it off,especially when they were talking about Isis raping pretty girls like myself and calling me his habibti,as if I'm joking around with him . I punched him in the face,spat at him and hit him in the crotch with the heel part of my boot,then I told him'you should never mess with this 'Arabian chick',he called me a whore but I just laughed it off. I'm still fuming even after taking my meds.
This just puts me off ever thinking I can ever fit in. Almost near impossible. Now it's like,who's going to insult you next?!!!
I feel I am generally accepted,I mean I've never experienced blatant racist remarks generally speaking in my lifetime until now... I feel so ****ing crap! I just want to stay in bed all day( that's what I'll do)
Yes,you will have more in common with a french woman than an Arab women hence why your parents may have liked her very much. I didn't realise you had an Iranian girlfriend(thought it was just a fling).
To some extent ceremonies don't matter but some people just aren't always tolerant of certain traditions in a specific culture,ive always wondered why in general,interracial relationships don't last as long.
My parents were indeed. My father was from an italian-Swiss background and my mother a westernised german arab who was raised in New York and they survived 22 years of marriage together plus my other family in Germany have all married europeans and my dad's side all consider themselves Europeans anyway.
In time I may well do but for now I just feel like an outsider who was just born and raised here with similar values/common ground.
Ah you are my Lawrence of Arabia
Original post by oxymoronical
Also, the Coptic faith does not permit one to marry a non-Oriental Orthodox individual :P
I know but my mum married my dad when they were very young, my mum's family were always accepting of him and they got on just fine and had me and had successful careers.
Threatened to beat a Frenchman before, typical snooty Parisian in London. They go on about France being great but all decide to **** off to London to literally take our jobs. Not our fault that France is a socialist hellhole led by a communist. Friend of a friend, I did not like how they act better than everyone in general, I don't see the big deal with them. They just smoke a lot and stand around trying to look cool. But anyway, he was being rude to everyone and looking down his nose at people. I started threatening him and he went over to our mutual friend and said "Your friend is being aggressive" 
and that got me even more pissed off because he was not prepared to fight me. I probably should not have, but then I proceeded to give him abuse on the phone the next day because I just did not like the guy, yes I called him a lot of homophobic and anti-French names but he was all like "I surrendeeuurrr". At least, he did not dare stand up to me. That is what strikes me about these French lads in London, once you call them out they crumble like a sack of dauphinoise.
Not saying that would happen with a lad from the banlieue because a guy like that would be up for defending his own honour, but a lot of these white Parisian guys are just your typical armchair racists. Problem is when you meat the French version of the white chav, of which there are many... now thats a new level of bigot and stupid.
and that got me even more pissed off because he was not prepared to fight me. I probably should not have, but then I proceeded to give him abuse on the phone the next day because I just did not like the guy, yes I called him a lot of homophobic and anti-French names but he was all like "I surrendeeuurrr". At least, he did not dare stand up to me. That is what strikes me about these French lads in London, once you call them out they crumble like a sack of dauphinoise.Not saying that would happen with a lad from the banlieue because a guy like that would be up for defending his own honour, but a lot of these white Parisian guys are just your typical armchair racists. Problem is when you meat the French version of the white chav, of which there are many... now thats a new level of bigot and stupid.
Original post by hellodave5
there is stuff like China town.
The fact that we have that is enriching, because it adds variation to our culture, whilst still significantly retaining our own. .
The fact that we have that is enriching, because it adds variation to our culture, whilst still significantly retaining our own. .
Terrorism and rape gangs are culturally enriching too, right? How can our own culture be enriched when we're told to keep separate from those who come to continue their own cultures? All we are doing is diluting our own cultural values to accommodate for the alien ones.
Original post by Tom_Ford
Threatened to beat a Frenchman before, typical snooty Parisian in London. They go on about France being great but all decide to **** off to London to literally take our jobs. Not our fault that France is a socialist hellhole led by a communist. Friend of a friend, I did not like how they act better than everyone in general, I don't see the big deal with them. They just smoke a lot and stand around trying to look cool. But anyway, he was being rude to everyone and looking down his nose at people. I started threatening him and he went over to our mutual friend and said "Your friend is being aggressive" and that got me even more pissed off because he was not prepared to fight me. I probably should not have, but then I proceeded to give him abuse on the phone the next day because I just did not like the guy, yes I called him a lot of homophobic and anti-French names but he was all like "I surrendeeuurrr". At least, he did not dare stand up to me. That is what strikes me about these French lads in London, once you call them out they crumble like a sack of dauphinoise.
Not saying that would happen with a lad from the banlieue because a guy like that would be up for defending his own honour, but a lot of these white Parisian guys are just your typical armchair racists. Problem is when you meat the French version of the white chav, of which there are many... now thats a new level of bigot and stupid.
and that got me even more pissed off because he was not prepared to fight me. I probably should not have, but then I proceeded to give him abuse on the phone the next day because I just did not like the guy, yes I called him a lot of homophobic and anti-French names but he was all like "I surrendeeuurrr". At least, he did not dare stand up to me. That is what strikes me about these French lads in London, once you call them out they crumble like a sack of dauphinoise.Not saying that would happen with a lad from the banlieue because a guy like that would be up for defending his own honour, but a lot of these white Parisian guys are just your typical armchair racists. Problem is when you meat the French version of the white chav, of which there are many... now thats a new level of bigot and stupid.
I hate their sense of arrogance and think that they are bigger and better,not even the british behave that way,next time I come across the french guy that I did today,I will have no self control over what I do to him.
Original post by HigherMinion
Terrorism and rape gangs are culturally enriching too, right? How can our own culture be enriched when we're told to keep separate from those who come to continue their own cultures? All we are doing is diluting our own cultural values to accommodate for the alien ones.
The first assertion about terrorism and rape gangs is completely unfair. Rape gangs and terrorism have anything to do with other cultures? Terrorism is partly the product of British foreign policy (we illegally invaded a country and instead of bringing stabilisation which was the objective, the area is in turmoil).
'Terrorists' are just a small sub-set of people. There are very few terrorist attacks - though of course this may be due to our security agencies (hello: probably being watched).
Nevertheless, this is a gross overgeneralisation from small pockets of those who wish to cause society harm, to say, a population of people over 1 billion (if you're talking about Muslims, which it seems you are).
As for rape gangs - that is not a problem of ethic minorities - but rather a problem of socioeconomic deprivation.
But I don't want to digress into these contentious points; not something I really like talking about - unless you have specific points you want to raise. Not happy stuff.
Your main point: We're told to keep separate from people with different cultures? What do you mean?
I don't mind some dilution of our own cultural values: our international cultural standing is increased, and we have the luxury of experiencing other cultures.
When has Britain ever had a good culture? It has always stolen from other cultures, as far as I know. We invented football and cricket and tennis, is all I can think of... and have a royal family and pubs.
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