Another thing I forgot to add earlier, I criticised the guys but I want to criticise the women too. Let's face it, some women are excited by being treated like **** and then making up afterwards whether they consciously know that or not, they love that drama in their lives. When I encounter such women in my life I don't think "Oh I will be nice" and get nowhere because she is not mentally stimulated, I think "Ok, I am going to manipulate you and **** with your mind" so I can get sex. Because hey, it's not like much else is guaranteed to work , they are damaged goods anyway.