might take up smoking

I thought you smoked?

Strong response as ever from you.

I'm currently in the process of quitting, when I say process, I mean I've attempted several times and failed. But I will keep trying, I've managed to cut down massively.

Which is why I tell the OP it'd be a terrible idea to take up smoking, it isn't worth it.

The quiff on the other hand, I don't have, although still think it's a terrible idea.

Still butthurt from when I destroyed you in the positive discrimination and feminism debate?

The thread is viewable in my stats. I have confidence that anyone who views it will definitely not come to the conclusion that you 'owned' anyone; the sheer lack of logical coherence in most of what you post is frankly embarrassing for a twenty-two-year-old graduate. Not quite as embarrassing as your haircut, but still pretty bad.

Still butthurt from when I destroyed you in the positive discrimination and feminism debate?

The thread is viewable in my stats. I have confidence that anyone who views it will definitely not come to the conclusion that you 'owned' anyone; the sheer lack of logical coherence in most of what you post is frankly embarrassing for a twenty-two-year-old graduate. Not quite as embarrassing as your haircut, but still pretty bad.

Can't we all just be friends?

One benefit is it keeps midges away. When walking in the countryside at dusk, chain smoking reduces the number of midge bites.

I also firmly believe it kept down the number of colds and other nose/throat infections. Although when I did get one (about once every 8 years), it would be a bugger and have me off work for 2 or 3 weeks.

You always have the means to light candles, sterilise needles, light a gas stove, seal the end of a fraying nylon or polyester cord about your person.

Every smoker can open any cellophane-wrapped container in under a second.

Smokers have handy receptacles around the home for putting items such as apple stalks and orange pips in. I miss having a handy ashtray to hand.

Tip your ashtray contents and dog ends into a bucket of rainwater in the garden. Water the roses with this concoction and it will keep them clear of aphids.

You can rarely smell nasty smells, they have to be very strong.

It keeps the weight down (because it is an appetite suppressant).

This isn't instant messenger. I am replying in my good time, be more patient.




Do you know with any certainty that his mouth and throat cancer were caused by smoking? It is very possible the mutations that led to cancer were not sparked by a cigarette. Cancer from smoking is extremely rare. I am writing a post on the pros now.

You have my support.

Here is some motivational material.

I'm sorry but watering your garden is hardly a convincing advantage for taking up the disgusting habit.

there's no positive and useful advantages to smoking if I'm being honest.

One benefit is it keeps midges away. When walking in the countryside at dusk, chain smoking reduces the number of midge bites.

I also firmly believe it kept down the number of colds and other nose/throat infections. Although when I did get one (about once every 8 years), it would be a bugger and have me off work for 2 or 3 weeks.

You always have the means to light candles, sterilise needles, light a gas stove, seal the end of a fraying nylon or polyester cord about your person.

Every smoker can open any cellophane-wrapped container in under a second.

Smokers have handy receptacles around the home for putting items such as apple stalks and orange pips in. I miss having a handy ashtray to hand.

Tip your ashtray contents and dog ends into a bucket of rainwater in the garden. Water the roses with this concoction and it will keep them clear of aphids.

You can rarely smell nasty smells, they have to be very strong.

It keeps the weight down (because it is an appetite suppressant).

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Do you know with any certainty that his mouth and throat cancer were caused by smoking? It is very possible the mutations that led to cancer were not sparked by a cigarette. Cancer from smoking is extremely rare. I am writing a post on the pros now.

****ing lost it

I was simply making the valid point that while many illnesses are predominantlt caused by smoking, there are genetic factors at play too and some of them develop independent of smoking.

I was simply making the valid point that while many illnesses are predominantlt caused by smoking, there are genetic factors at play too and some of them develop independent of smoking.

Strong response as ever from you.

I really am starting to get the impression that you just enjoy arguing with me, because that's all you seem to do.

I enjoy tackling positions I disagree with.



I can't possibly list them all, but they include a significantly reduced risk of Parkinson's and Alzheimer's diseases and reduced ageing of the brain generally, significantly reduced risk of breast cancer, significantly reduced risk of ulcerative colitis, while it is also an effective treatment for the symptoms of many mental health problems. About 80% of schizophrenics smoke, and it is reasonable to attribute this to smoking's positive effects on many of the cognitive, psychiatric and physical symptoms of the illness. The effects of smoking have been shown to effectively treat major depressive disorder, for another example.

More generally, cigarette smoking enhances concentration, improves memory, inhibits pain and reduces anxiety. Cigarette smoking, depending on the speed and strength of inhalation, can be both a stimulant and a relaxant. Smoking is also useful in tackling obesity, which can be infinitely more dangerous than light smoking, because it inhibits appetite.

Here are some well written and well sourced pages on some of the health benefits of smoking:

http://www.forces.org/evidence/evid/therap.htm

http://www.sott.net/article/221013-Health-Benefits-of-Smoking-Tobacco

Lung cancer. There is undeniably a much bigger risk of lung cancer with smoking but it is nowhere near as likely as is portrayed. A well sourced quote from Wikipedia:



In other words, I have a 1.5/10 risk of developing lung cancer if I smoke as I do for the rest of my life, while as a woman you would have a 0.95/10 risk. In my mind, considering the pleasure it gives me and the benefits touched on above, I do not believe this risk is great enough for me to abstain from it. There is a 75% chance I won't develop the disease.

The biggest scandal we've never heard about is that medical practitioners make a great deal of money from encouraging anti-smoking. Below is the link to an article by a man who has done the leg work - and he concludes that doctors make about £88m annually from being anti-smoking. The newspapers, meanwhile, make a pretty penny from enticing people into reading them by scaremongering, and politicians are mostly populist at the top and will do everything possible to conform to popular attitudes when there is no great need to resist them. All three of these actors are responsible for the vilification of smoking in the public conscience and I ask you to consider that they are all their own respective conflicts of interests before you take their word for it. Smoking is not as great a danger as we have been led to believe, and its many benefits have been hushed up.

http://www.clivebates.com/?p=2488