No more breasts :'(

The content of the magazines is run by the editors. And do you think it's any different for men's magazines? Have you ever read Men's Health or GQ or looked at the covers? Everything you have said applies to men, yet your only concern is women when apparently you believe in gender equality. Moreover, you groundlessly blame everything in women's magazines on men - that is the definition of misandrist.



There is no such thing as looking good for yourself. Your self-worth in terms of physical appearance is absolutely defined by other people's opinion of your appearance. Every item of clothing you choose, every time you put on make-up, every time you go to the hair salon, you are trying to look good to impress others which in turn makes you feel good. Our confidence in how we look can only ever be attained within a community of people who acknowledge how we look. If you were the only person to have ever lived on Earth you would not ever wear make-up or care about your hair or what clothes you wear - "looking good" would have no inherent meaning, you wouldn't understand what that concept is.

As far as I understand it, "men's magazines" don't pressure their readers to do anything to earn the approval of a woman. I do think it's sad that men and women are both asked to conform to unrealistic standards, but I tend to focus more on women as we are currently in a socially disadvantaged position compared to men. Does that clear things up for you?

Page three is going to stop showing topless models

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/19/has-the-sun-axed-page-3-topless-pictures

As someone who can't for the life of them get a girlfriend this is the only way I can possibly see them.

But I hear there is this thing called Google images. Apparently there is a huge supply of boobs on there.

I will report my findings.


Edit: Disclaimer, I feel the need to point out that I have never bought a copy of the Sun. I'm not actually personally upset there is no more page 3.

I love how people call it sexist but will continue to show topless male models in all sorts of magazines anyway.

The 'men are objectified too argument' is incredibly weak. Men just aren't objectified as much as women. Men in media are portrayed as the ideal. They aren't there to be fantasised about, but to be fantasised as. Huge difference. Watch any action movie or advertisement involving topless men. They are there most times for men to wish they were the muscular and powerful man that Is being portrayed.


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There's a difference. Men aren't sexualised. Men are idealised and not portrayed as objects the reader wants to own. Sexualisation and being portrayed as an ideal aren't the same. Sure there are exceptions, but often enough men are idealised and females are sexualised. That's why women argue there's little empowering about things like Page 3.


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No you won't because it's logically impossible. The concept itself of "looking good" can only be defined within a society or community of people. On your own there is no such concept. Our concept of looking good is synonymous with attractiveness. What I am confused about is why you are so against this, almost arrogantly, that such thinking is beneath you and you only do it for yourself. It's self-delusion to a quite alarming degree.



Regardless of whether you are a misandrist, your posts in this thread have been baseless and sexist towards men. I really had to laugh at the bit in bold - it just shows your complete lack of understanding and one-sided mentality. Men's Health and GQ has one aim: look good for women and compete with men. The shelves are filled with bodybuilding magazines and men's fashion. You are displaying your very clear bias and lack of support for gender equality by ignoring everything except women's concerns, despite the fact they are no different to men's. Women are not socially disadvantaged; you seem to have got your dates mixed up, this is 2015 not 1915.

It's not a chicken and egg scenario...

I dunno I was thinking about trying to ban topless picture of men.

Feminist logic. Promote freedom by taking it away.

There's a difference. Men aren't sexualised. Men are idealised and not portrayed as objects the reader wants to own.

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Yeah, and who do you think is behind the fact that magazines are targeted that way?

(Hint: it's men.)

On the third page of a newspaper? Where?

It's not sexist because of the tits, it's sexist because of where it is.

If you want to see bouncy tits on a <23 year old, there are places you can go... on the internet... if you get my drift.

Whose 'freedom' is being taken away exactly? Is it now illegal to sell topless pictures of yourself?

Don't be a dolt.

If you want equality, put a man with an aesthetic body on a different page - something for the women to enjoy