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Can 23 yr olds start at university and still fit in socially etc.?

One of my work mates is thinking of taking time off work to do an access course and do this, Idk many mature students so what should I tell her?

Also is there no funding for access courses bc you are older? Would she be better off doing A levels and then starting uni at 24 instead? 24 is old though isnt it?
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**** and i was worrying about starting at 20
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Reply 2
Original post by suudsioee
Sh*t and i was worrying about starting at 20


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Reply 3
Hey,

I did an access course last year 2013/14 academic year, and now at Manchester University. I am 24 now, I had the same worries..however realised it's very easy to fit in socially, firstly Nobody asks, how old you are. And since everybody is the same boat there's no questions and everyone is friendly. It's what you make it, you do need to talk to people, and there are various ages at uni, for example I have met a 65 year old first year. Just take part in uni life, ie society's and she'll be fine.

Hope this helps.


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Original post by HarryDn
One of my work mates is thinking of taking time off work to do an access course and do this, Idk many mature students so what should I tell her?

Why do you feel the need to tell her anything? You clearly don't have any insight or experience to offer. If I were you, I'd be minding my own business. :smile:

Also is there no funding for access courses bc you are older?

Yes, there's the 24+ Advanced Learning Loan.

Would she be better off doing A levels and then starting uni at 24 instead?

It depends what her target uni wants. Most prefer Access courses from mature students who've been out of education for a few years, as they're nearer uni-style study than A Levels. It will not only show the uni that an applicant can work at the right level, but it will show the student whether uni study is really for them.

24 is old though isnt it?

Only if you're under 24... :biggrin: I started my degree aged 44, which must seem positively geriatric to you!

Please stay out of it. Your work colleague really doesn't need your "help".
Reply 5
Original post by Klix88
Why do you feel the need to tell her anything? You clearly don't have any insight or experience to offer. If I were you, I'd be minding my own business. :smile:


Because I just joined TSR, and she cba to make an account but wanted me to ask as this is a good site?

Yes, there's the 24+ Advanced Learning Loan.


Is that for people who are 24+ when they start uni or the course?

It depends what her target uni wants. Most prefer Access courses from mature students who've been out of education for a few years, as they're nearer uni-style study than A Levels. It will not only show the uni that an applicant can work at the right level, but it will show the student whether uni study is really for them.

Only if you're under 24... :biggrin: I started my degree aged 44, which must seem positively geriatric to you!

Please stay out of it. Your work colleague really doesn't need your "help".


I think she's going for Russell Group type unis. Forgot to ask sorry. Is it best for her to email them and ask?

How did you find it at 44?
Reply 6
Original post by Kpowz
Hey,

I did an access course last year 2013/14 academic year, and now at Manchester University. I am 24 now, I had the same worries..however realised it's very easy to fit in socially, firstly Nobody asks, how old you are. And since everybody is the same boat there's no questions and everyone is friendly. It's what you make it, you do need to talk to people, and there are various ages at uni, for example I have met a 65 year old first year. Just take part in uni life, ie society's and she'll be fine.

Hope this helps.


Thanks :smile: are access courses fine then? Where else did you apply besides Manchester?

Do the usual 18 year olds not mind if someone's older btw?
Reply 7
Original post by HarryDn
Is that for people who are 24+ when they start uni or the course?

That would be for Access so she wouldn't get it unless she waited. At uni, she'll get the same Student Finance as anyone else. You get a lifetime fixed entitlement, and the only age restriction kicks in when you hit 60, when you can no longer get the Maintenance Loan.

I think she's going for Russell Group type unis. Forgot to ask sorry. Is it best for her to email them and ask?

Absolutely - it's definitely best to ask the uni's Admissions Office before committing to any pre-uni study. Mature student entry requirements are decided on a case-by-case basis. Different students might be given different requirements for the same course. I was one of two mature students on my degree - I didn't have to do an Access course and the other person did.

If the uni wants an Access course, get them to specify which one. There are different subjects and if you apply with the wrong Access course, your application will be rejected.

As a basic, most unis will now require GCSE English and Maths at Grade C or above. Worth bearing in mind in case she needs to re-take them.

How did you find it at 44?

I suspect my experience will be very different as I looked like everyone's Mum! It took about a year for the younger students to get used to me, after which I was part of the group and the banter like everyone else. I loved my undergrad degree. In fact six and a half years on, I'm still at uni doing a PhD. They can't get rid of me!

At 24, I doubt your colleague will look or sound much different to a 20 year old. My bet is that nobody will guess how old she is unless she makes a thing of it and tells everyone. At which point, I still doubt it would make much difference to either friendships or social life.
Reply 8
Original post by Klix88
That would be for Access so she wouldn't get it unless she waited. At uni, she'll get the same Student Finance as anyone else. You get a lifetime fixed entitlement, and the only age restriction kicks in when you hit 60, when you can no longer get the Maintenance Loan.


Thanks, how much are the Access courses usually btw?

Absolutely - it's definitely best to ask the uni's Admissions Office before committing to any pre-uni study. Mature student entry requirements are decided on a case-by-case basis. Different students might be given different requirements for the same course. I was one of two mature students on my degree - I didn't have to do an Access course and the other person did.


I'll tell her to email ty. How come you didn't have to do Access btw, did you have recent A levels? :smile:

If the uni wants an Access course, get them to specify which one. There are different subjects and if you apply with the wrong Access course, your application will be rejected.

As a basic, most unis will now require GCSE English and Maths at Grade C or above. Worth bearing in mind in case she needs to re-take them.

I suspect my experience will be very different as I looked like everyone's Mum! It took about a year for the younger students to get used to me, after which I was part of the group and the banter like everyone else. I loved my undergrad degree. In fact six and a half years on, I'm still at uni doing a PhD. They can't get rid of me!

At 24, I doubt your colleague will look or sound much different to a 20 year old. My bet is that nobody will guess how old she is unless she makes a thing of it and tells everyone. At which point, I still doubt it would make much difference to either friendships or social life.


Ah that sounds awful that it took a year :frown: How did they act before you got used to you, hopefully they weren't cliquey?

Doesn't everyone at uni know how old you are tho? (I had a 17 year old scottish guy in my halls, and everyone knew because his birthday was in the first term)
Reply 9
Original post by HarryDn
Thanks, how much are the Access courses usually btw?

I'm afraid as I didn't do one, I have no idea. Should be on college websites though, so shouldn't take too much tracking down.

I'll tell her to email ty. How come you didn't have to do Access btw, did you have recent A levels? :smile:

I had a combination of learning and practical experience over a couple of years before I applied (which I'd done as a volunteer with the uni). I'd completed an online short course in the subject - it didn't have credits but it was run by a different (higher ranked) uni and the course tutor was a member of uni staff who wrote my UCAS reference. I was in the middle of an online GCSE in my uni subject, but I hadn't finished it by the time I started my degree. Whilst I mentioned it in my uni application, I got an Unconditional offer so it wasn't vital.

Ah that sounds awful that it took a year :frown: How did they act before you got used to you, hopefully they weren't cliquey?

I kind of expected it at my age. They just seemed a bit embarrassed to talk to me in person. I had to remember that they probably hadn't mixed socially with someone my age before. I was the same age as their parents, teachers or bosses, so I think they expected me to be all disapproving or judgemental. In reality I thought they were great. Such a lot of energy and positivity when compared to the working environment I'd come from. I found that they first started chatting to me on Facebook and that gradually spread to "real life".

Most social situations can get a bit cliquey. Doubtless they did form sub-groups, but I wasn't involved in any of them and seemed to be treated equally well by everyone.

Doesn't everyone at uni know how old you are tho? (I had a 17 year old scottish guy in my halls, and everyone knew because his birthday was in the first term)

If you tell people, then they'll know. If you don't tell them, then they won't know. It honestly doesn't matter either way. People seem quite worried about ages before they start uni. Once they get there, they find that they're in a bit of a melting pot of folks from 18 to 70. Yes, most will be at the lower end of the scale, but the practical difference between an 18 year old and a 24 year old, really is negligible. Nobody will bully or shun someone simply because they're 24. Did you really find that it was an issue where you were? I've been through three unis so far and I've just never encountered anything like that.
I met many people of all ages at uni , granted many were 18-25 but there were plenty of people older than that too ! For many , going later is better for them because it has given them time to really know what they want to do . I went at 19 because at 18 I wasn't too sure and would have just picked a course for the sake of it ! Many of my friends went at 18 and some just started this year at 22 and 23 . My mum was about 44 when she graduated and from my own experience of my friends and my uni life you'll really find a mixed bag and realize that age doesn't matter at all .
I was 23 when I started uni last September and I had the same concerns, especially as my birthday is in November but so far I've had no problems fitting in socially whatsoever. All I can suggest is socialising with people who act mature, you'll probably get along with them more.
The OP is extremely rude here. I will be 25 when I go back in September to do my second degree (I still get ID'd alot so don't imagine my age will be a problem) BUT, what-the-actual-f here?! I am going onto a course which is like 50% mature and 50% just out of sixth form, but even on my first degree which was predominantly younger people about 1 in 10 people in my class were in their late twenties and I didn't even realise until they told me, nor did I really think it was a big deal.

Grow up.
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Original post by jennies90
the op is extremely rude here. I will be 25 when i go back in september to do my second degree (i still get id'd alot so don't imagine my age will be a problem) but, what-the-actual-f here?! I am going onto a course which is like 50% mature and 50% just out of sixth form, but even on my first degree which was predominantly younger people about 1 in 10 people in my class were in their late twenties and i didn't even realise until they told me, nor did i really think it was a big deal.

Grow up.


harrydn
because i just joined tsr, and she cba to make an account but wanted me to ask as this is a good site?

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Original post by HarryDn
One of my work mates is thinking of taking time off work to do an access course and do this, Idk many mature students so what should I tell her?

Also is there no funding for access courses bc you are older? Would she be better off doing A levels and then starting uni at 24 instead? 24 is old though isnt it?

LOL at your profile pic.....The legendary slasher?
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Original post by German123
LOL at your profile pic.....The legendary slasher?


no its jesus
Original post by HarryDn
no its jesus




LOL….We both know its not. Anyway I think there is away out for your friend. You just have to look and seek guidance from people who actually know stuff about mature student education and those who had personal experience and were in the same boat as your friend.
I'm 18 and I like hanging out with 20+ year olds. You will be just fine - be open-minded and don't go to uni with preconceptions.
Original post by Klix88
Why do you feel the need to tell her anything? You clearly don't have any insight or experience to offer. If I were you, I'd be minding my own business. :smile:


Yes, there's the 24+ Advanced Learning Loan.


It depends what her target uni wants. Most prefer Access courses from mature students who've been out of education for a few years, as they're nearer uni-style study than A Levels. It will not only show the uni that an applicant can work at the right level, but it will show the student whether uni study is really for them.


Only if you're under 24... :biggrin: I started my degree aged 44, which must seem positively geriatric to you!

Please stay out of it. Your work colleague really doesn't need your "help".

Did you have uni romances? :tongue:
Original post by JennieS90
The OP is extremely rude here. I will be 25 when I go back in September to do my second degree (I still get ID'd alot so don't imagine my age will be a problem) BUT, what-the-actual-f here?! I am going onto a course which is like 50% mature and 50% just out of sixth form, but even on my first degree which was predominantly younger people about 1 in 10 people in my class were in their late twenties and I didn't even realise until they told me, nor did I really think it was a big deal.
Grow up.


How are you funding your second degree?

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